A bonailie, Nicola

First.Aspect

Go away now, please.

ddraver

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

First.Aspect

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

No I've been here ages.

sungod

to be fair, she lasted longer than any of may, johnson, truss and, so far, sunak, and didn't comprehensively trash the country and gloat after stripping it's citizens of their rights

not all bad

First.Aspect

sungod said:

to be fair, she lasted longer than any of may, johnson, truss and, so far, sunak, and didn't comprehensively trash the country and gloat after stripping it's citizens of their rights

not all bad

Thanks to the Supreme Court for preventing that.

pblakeney

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

Interesting. Joined in 2018 and has a grand total of 4 posts. All today, in this thread.
The ultimate lurker?

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

rick_chasey

How many Scottish elections did she win?

pblakeney

rick_chasey said:

How many Scottish elections did she win?

I have found this thing called Google which will tell you such things.
Your answer is 4. 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2021.

rick_chasey

pblakeney said:

rick_chasey said:

How many Scottish elections did she win?

I have found this thing called Google which will tell you such things.
Your answer is 4. 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2021.

i couldnt get the AI to spell her name right

pblakeney

rick_chasey said:

pblakeney said:

rick_chasey said:

How many Scottish elections did she win?

I have found this thing called Google which will tell you such things.
Your answer is 4. 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2021.

i couldnt get the AI to spell her name right

Have a word with focuszing about that. AI clearly has a long way to go.

surrey_commuter

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

I am genuinely interested in why you care.

Surely the SNP doing well is good for Tory election success?

Dorset_Boy

pblakeney said:

rick_chasey said:

How many Scottish elections did she win?

I have found this thing called Google which will tell you such things.
Your answer is 4. 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2021.

Eh? She was only leader for 8 years. From wiki:
Nicola Sturgeon's term as first minister of Scotland began on 20 November 2014 when she was formally sworn into office at the Court of Session. It followed Alex Salmond's resignation following the defeat of the Yes campaign in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum.

So she won 2 elections as leader (2016 & 2021).

First.Aspect

There are elections in Scotland as well, for this thing called the Scottish Parliament. You may have heard about it?

First.Aspect

I'm finding it interesting that now she's resigned, the press generally seems able to actually voice what the SNP have actually done. Aside from cardboard baby boxes, not a lot.

And for once they aren't getting shouted down by team indignant and insulted, using the word Westminster a lot.

About bloody time.

pblakeney

First.Aspect said:

There are elections in Scotland as well, for this thing called the Scottish Parliament. You may have heard about it?

Turns out my AI is as bad as Rick's 😉. 3 is the correct answer.
How many elections are there of varying levels? #confusing
PS - Labour is looking particularly poor there.

Stevo_666

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

I am genuinely interested in why you care.

Surely the SNP doing well is good for Tory election success?

Who knows? Do we think Starmer would not have a change of heart and try for a coalition with the SNP after the next GE?

I am not a big fan of a party who seems to have disliking the English at the heart of their beliefs.

Dorset_Boy

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

There are elections in Scotland as well, for this thing called the Scottish Parliament. You may have heard about it?

Turns out my AI is as bad as Rick's 😉. 3 is the correct answer.
How many elections are there of varying levels? #confusing
PS - Labour is looking particularly poor there.

2014, wasn't a Scottish general election (or whatever they call it). It was rubber stamping her taking over as First Minster from Salmond, so those votes are by the elected house, a rubber stamping exercise.

pblakeney

Dorset_Boy said:

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

There are elections in Scotland as well, for this thing called the Scottish Parliament. You may have heard about it?

Turns out my AI is as bad as Rick's 😉. 3 is the correct answer.
How many elections are there of varying levels? #confusing
PS - Labour is looking particularly poor there.

2014, wasn't a Scottish general election (or whatever they call it). It was rubber stamping her taking over as First Minster from Salmond, so those votes are by the elected house, a rubber stamping exercise.

Fair enough, they don't make it easy do they? Either way she has been in charge for over 8 consecutive years. During which we've had 5 tory leaders.

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

I am genuinely interested in why you care.

Surely the SNP doing well is good for Tory election success?

Who knows? Do we think Starmer would not have a change of heart and try for a coalition with the SNP after the next GE?

I am not a big fan of a party who seems to have disliking the English at the heart of their beliefs.

Why? He’ll almost certainly have a huge parliamentary majority without them.

briantrumpet

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

I am genuinely interested in why you care.

Surely the SNP doing well is good for Tory election success?

Who knows? Do we think Starmer would not have a change of heart and try for a coalition with the SNP after the next GE?

I am not a big fan of a party who seems to have disliking the English at the heart of their beliefs.

Why? He’ll almost certainly have a huge parliamentary majority without them.

Stevo's more worried that the Nats will be the biggest opposition party after the next Westminster election.

Stevo_666

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Did someone join the forum just to wail on the SNP..?

It's a worthy cause, so what's the problem?

I am genuinely interested in why you care.

Surely the SNP doing well is good for Tory election success?

Who knows? Do we think Starmer would not have a change of heart and try for a coalition with the SNP after the next GE?

I am not a big fan of a party who seems to have disliking the English at the heart of their beliefs.

Why? He’ll almost certainly have a huge parliamentary majority without them.

We'll see. Not sure you have a better crystal ball than me. Beware the shy tories...

Stevo_666

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

pangolin

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

At least they can take comfort in the fact that, as of the UK, they benefit from the roaring success of our recent independence.

First.Aspect

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

Indeed. Independence is a classic case of starting with what you don't like (the English) deciding what to do against what you don't like (independence from England) and then trying to justify why its a good idea (um...)

The main reason they haven't shifted the debate in the last decade despite an open goal, is because they don't really have anything they stand for, other than high taxation and high spending on trinkets to get people to vote for independence.

They truly are the yes party, because yes is the easy answer.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

Indeed. Independence is a classic case of starting with what you don't like (the English) deciding what to do against what you don't like (independence from England) and then trying to justify why its a good idea (um...)

The main reason they haven't shifted the debate in the last decade despite an open goal, is because they don't really have anything they stand for, other than high taxation and high spending on trinkets to get people to vote for independence.

They truly are the yes party, because yes is the easy answer.

Sorry, is that the SNP you're talking about, or the Tories?

Oh, silly me, the Tories got Brexit 'done'.

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

Indeed. Independence is a classic case of starting with what you don't like (the English) deciding what to do against what you don't like (independence from England) and then trying to justify why its a good idea (um...)

The main reason they haven't shifted the debate in the last decade despite an open goal, is because they don't really have anything they stand for, other than high taxation and high spending on trinkets to get people to vote for independence.

They truly are the yes party, because yes is the easy answer.

Sorry, is that the SNP you're talking about, or the Tories?

Oh, silly me, the Tories got Brexit 'done'.

The irony hasn't escaped those living in Scotland with triple digit IQs.

i.e. roughly 50%

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

Indeed. Independence is a classic case of starting with what you don't like (the English) deciding what to do against what you don't like (independence from England) and then trying to justify why its a good idea (um...)

The main reason they haven't shifted the debate in the last decade despite an open goal, is because they don't really have anything they stand for, other than high taxation and high spending on trinkets to get people to vote for independence.

They truly are the yes party, because yes is the easy answer.

Sorry, is that the SNP you're talking about, or the Tories?

Oh, silly me, the Tories got Brexit 'done'.

The irony hasn't escaped those living in Scotland with triple digit IQs.

i.e. roughly 50%

I'd say 52%. Or 48%. Advisedly.

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

Anyway, Sturgeon went into politics to deliver Scottish independence. Must be very galling for her to have failed completely. Hey ho.

Indeed. Independence is a classic case of starting with what you don't like (the English) deciding what to do against what you don't like (independence from England) and then trying to justify why its a good idea (um...)

The main reason they haven't shifted the debate in the last decade despite an open goal, is because they don't really have anything they stand for, other than high taxation and high spending on trinkets to get people to vote for independence.

They truly are the yes party, because yes is the easy answer.

Sorry, is that the SNP you're talking about, or the Tories?

Oh, silly me, the Tories got Brexit 'done'.

The irony hasn't escaped those living in Scotland with triple digit IQs.

i.e. roughly 50%

I'd say 52%. Or 48%. Advisedly.

55%?

pinno

First.Aspect said:

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

There have been rumours since she started travelling abroad on the public purse on what can only be described as personal marketing trips.

They are getting into problems with a number of silly policies.

...

I sincerely hope this is a prelude to some more balanced politics up here.

Unfortunately for you I think the SNP leadership will be much like the tory leadership.
Losing one head to be replaced by a worse one. You may be happy one day, eventually.

I think there is a natural gap for Scottish Labour to move into, if SNP support weakens. The way the parliament here works is fairly proportional, so would lead to coalition governance. At the moment it is with the greens because they only needed two seats, and the greens hold too much sway and have less common sense than even the SNP.

Lead by Patrick Harvey whom i've had the 'pleasure' of meeting directly. on a couple of occasions.
He was one of the Greens that took up the gay rights baton and his following clique put this at the top of the agenda of the then Green party.
In the process, lost many members.

I have nothing against the pursuit of equality/gay rights issues but they lost their heads. I never did understand why this was top of their agenda for a long while.
In what way is equality and gay rights a 'Green' issue (beyond a member/vote inducing policy)? It shouldn't dominate 3 years of party conferences but it did.

Oh and he doesn't have a sense of humour and he doesn't get satire. Miserable fcuker.