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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,854
    Meh. I do it all the time. Add on a pocket cable lock for peace of mind. Won't stop a proper bike thief but will stop an opportunist. Phone is already in the pocket and the computer joins it.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,725
    womack said:

    So yesterday I went for a 100 miler. Spare tube and levers, sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, money, energy drink, fags.

    Where would I have put all that stuff without a saddle bag, no jersey has that many pockets.

    Spare tubes, levers and a multi tool = silca saddle pack. Discrete, stylish. Doesn't look like a rucksack velcroed to your seatpost.

    2x drink bottles (one too many unless you are a pussy).

    2x fruit pastels.

    Sandwiches are not for mid ride, unless the middle of your ride is overnight. Gels are basically fruit squash that's been boiled. Fruit squash is nicer and you can carry it in a bottle cage. Are you seriously going to eat compressed cake that's been warmed against your sweaty back for 4 hours? Energy drink and gels and cake? Wft are you doing, LEGOG? Fags not needed unless you are stopping for some hot sex at the 50 mile point.
  • womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    Sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, energy drink and fags can all be bought mid ride.
    All you need is a spare tube, levers and a bank card. A pump might help too. 😉

    Not on all occasions if you are a solo cyclist, I certainly wouldn't go in a shop and leave my bike, phone, computer unattended. Yes it's ok if there are more than one of you as you can go in turn with someone watching the bikes.

    Pump is on a bracket on the bottle cage.



    Agreed. I always ride solo, and would never leave my bike unattended. On one occasion, when it turned out unexpectedly hot, I ran out of water with 40 miles to go. I wheeled the bike into a Spar to buy more. Got some funny looks, mind you, but rather that than come out and find the bike gone.

    MattFalle, gopping... hacking… what do those words mean?

    First.Aspect, one bottle is enough? For 100 miles plus, in upwards of 30°C? Rather you than me.

    I think too many people are concerned about not looking pro (or something like that) instead of the practicalities of being able to enjoy the ride, and get home safe and sound. I have no-one I can call if something goes wrong. I have to be able to deal with things myself.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,725

    womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    Sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, energy drink and fags can all be bought mid ride.
    All you need is a spare tube, levers and a bank card. A pump might help too. 😉

    Not on all occasions if you are a solo cyclist, I certainly wouldn't go in a shop and leave my bike, phone, computer unattended. Yes it's ok if there are more than one of you as you can go in turn with someone watching the bikes.

    Pump is on a bracket on the bottle cage.



    Agreed. I always ride solo, and would never leave my bike unattended. On one occasion, when it turned out unexpectedly hot, I ran out of water with 40 miles to go. I wheeled the bike into a Spar to buy more. Got some funny looks, mind you, but rather that than come out and find the bike gone.

    MattFalle, gopping... hacking… what do those words mean?

    First.Aspect, one bottle is enough? For 100 miles plus, in upwards of 30°C? Rather you than me.

    I think too many people are concerned about not looking pro (or something like that) instead of the practicalities of being able to enjoy the ride, and get home safe and sound. I have no-one I can call if something goes wrong. I have to be able to deal with things myself.
    I live in Scotland. It hasn't been above 30 degrees here since around a femtosecond after the Big Bang.

    I was cycling in 30+ in Dartmoor a week ago. I needed 2 bottles, granted. But I didn't need to carry a 4 course meal.

    When I ran out of water I licked some Tors, then drank urine.
  • womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    Sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, energy drink and fags can all be bought mid ride.
    All you need is a spare tube, levers and a bank card. A pump might help too. 😉

    Not on all occasions if you are a solo cyclist, I certainly wouldn't go in a shop and leave my bike, phone, computer unattended. Yes it's ok if there are more than one of you as you can go in turn with someone watching the bikes.

    Pump is on a bracket on the bottle cage.



    Agreed. I always ride solo, and would never leave my bike unattended. On one occasion, when it turned out unexpectedly hot, I ran out of water with 40 miles to go. I wheeled the bike into a Spar to buy more. Got some funny looks, mind you, but rather that than come out and find the bike gone.

    MattFalle, gopping... hacking… what do those words mean?

    First.Aspect, one bottle is enough? For 100 miles plus, in upwards of 30°C? Rather you than me.

    I think too many people are concerned about not looking pro (or something like that) instead of the practicalities of being able to enjoy the ride, and get home safe and sound. I have no-one I can call if something goes wrong. I have to be able to deal with things myself.
    I live in Scotland. It hasn't been above 30 degrees here since around a femtosecond after the Big Bang.

    I was cycling in 30+ in Dartmoor a week ago. I needed 2 bottles, granted. But I didn't need to carry a 4 course meal.

    When I ran out of water I licked some Tors, then drank urine.
    Actually, I think parts of Scotland were around the 30 degree level a couple of weeks ago, though I agree, much cooler than that is the norm. I live in East Anglia, where it's more common. It got to 35 as recently as last summer. I had 3 litres with me, and cut short a ride when it was clear that was nowhere near enough. I was also in Cambridge, two summers ago, cycling round the city on a freight bike, the day it hit 38.7, a UK record, which was truly phenomenal. Dehydration effects performance, and it's said by the time you feel thirsty you're already dehydrated.


    Whose urine did you drink? In those conditions you can't have been producing any yourself.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,854
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  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    Anyway, we seemed to have hijacked the thread to talk about saddlebags etc.

    OP, enjoy your new bike with or without any luggage.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,725

    womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    Sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, energy drink and fags can all be bought mid ride.
    All you need is a spare tube, levers and a bank card. A pump might help too. 😉

    Not on all occasions if you are a solo cyclist, I certainly wouldn't go in a shop and leave my bike, phone, computer unattended. Yes it's ok if there are more than one of you as you can go in turn with someone watching the bikes.

    Pump is on a bracket on the bottle cage.



    Agreed. I always ride solo, and would never leave my bike unattended. On one occasion, when it turned out unexpectedly hot, I ran out of water with 40 miles to go. I wheeled the bike into a Spar to buy more. Got some funny looks, mind you, but rather that than come out and find the bike gone.

    MattFalle, gopping... hacking… what do those words mean?

    First.Aspect, one bottle is enough? For 100 miles plus, in upwards of 30°C? Rather you than me.

    I think too many people are concerned about not looking pro (or something like that) instead of the practicalities of being able to enjoy the ride, and get home safe and sound. I have no-one I can call if something goes wrong. I have to be able to deal with things myself.
    I live in Scotland. It hasn't been above 30 degrees here since around a femtosecond after the Big Bang.

    I was cycling in 30+ in Dartmoor a week ago. I needed 2 bottles, granted. But I didn't need to carry a 4 course meal.

    When I ran out of water I licked some Tors, then drank urine.
    Actually, I think parts of Scotland were around the 30 degree level a couple of weeks ago, though I agree, much cooler than that is the norm. I live in East Anglia, where it's more common. It got to 35 as recently as last summer. I had 3 litres with me, and cut short a ride when it was clear that was nowhere near enough. I was also in Cambridge, two summers ago, cycling round the city on a freight bike, the day it hit 38.7, a UK record, which was truly phenomenal. Dehydration effects performance, and it's said by the time you feel thirsty you're already dehydrated.


    Whose urine did you drink? In those conditions you can't have been producing any yourself.
    A filled a bottle from a Dartmoor pony. They are fairly tame.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    Sarnies, snack bars, gels, cakes, energy drink and fags can all be bought mid ride.
    All you need is a spare tube, levers and a bank card. A pump might help too. 😉

    Not on all occasions if you are a solo cyclist, I certainly wouldn't go in a shop and leave my bike, phone, computer unattended. Yes it's ok if there are more than one of you as you can go in turn with someone watching the bikes.

    Pump is on a bracket on the bottle cage.



    Agreed. I always ride solo, and would never leave my bike unattended. On one occasion, when it turned out unexpectedly hot, I ran out of water with 40 miles to go. I wheeled the bike into a Spar to buy more. Got some funny looks, mind you, but rather that than come out and find the bike gone.

    MattFalle, gopping... hacking… what do those words mean?

    First.Aspect, one bottle is enough? For 100 miles plus, in upwards of 30°C? Rather you than me.

    I think too many people are concerned about not looking pro (or something like that) instead of the practicalities of being able to enjoy the ride, and get home safe and sound. I have no-one I can call if something goes wrong. I have to be able to deal with things myself.
    I live in Scotland. It hasn't been above 30 degrees here since around a femtosecond after the Big Bang.

    I was cycling in 30+ in Dartmoor a week ago. I needed 2 bottles, granted. But I didn't need to carry a 4 course meal.

    When I ran out of water I licked some Tors, then drank urine.
    Actually, I think parts of Scotland were around the 30 degree level a couple of weeks ago, though I agree, much cooler than that is the norm. I live in East Anglia, where it's more common. It got to 35 as recently as last summer. I had 3 litres with me, and cut short a ride when it was clear that was nowhere near enough. I was also in Cambridge, two summers ago, cycling round the city on a freight bike, the day it hit 38.7, a UK record, which was truly phenomenal. Dehydration effects performance, and it's said by the time you feel thirsty you're already dehydrated.


    Whose urine did you drink? In those conditions you can't have been producing any yourself.
    So around the time we climbed down from the trees and started to walk up right. How did we work out that we needed to drink before we were thirsty. I don’t think there was a lot of sports science around to tell you how fluid you needed to drink whilst running away from a Sabre toothed Tiger.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    womack said:

    Anyway, we seemed to have hijacked the thread to talk about saddlebags etc.

    OP, enjoy your new bike with or without any luggage.

    au contraire.

    we have all, en masse, decided that OP's new bicycle is a bargain, potentially - once slammed, phatted and saddle and 'bar tape changed, extremely cool but the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • stampz
    stampz Posts: 29
    It's keeping my very entertained though.

    Let's open another can of worms, this is my first Cannondale, I am normally a Giant man, my main ride the Giant TCR Advanced 1 Ultegra.

    Who does the better £1k bike? Giant with the Contend or Cannondale with the CAAD 8?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    CAAD. They're just utterly brilliant which is why they are a classic.

    Just as good and if not better than most carbon frames.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle said:

    womack said:



    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.

    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
  • oblongomaculatus
    oblongomaculatus Posts: 616
    edited August 2021
    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
    no its not.

    its about not making your bike lookshit.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
    no its not.

    its about not making your bike lookshit.
    Oh? Well Rule 29 says no saddle bags, Rule 30 says no frame mounted pumps, Rule 31 says spare tubes, multi-tools and repair kits should be stored in jersey pockets, rule 45 says slam your stem, Rule 52 says bidons are to be small in size, 500-610ml maximum, no extra large vessels are to be seen on one’s machine. Two cages can be mounted, but only one bidon on rides under two hours is to be employed… Sounds an awful lot like The Rules to me, or at least the ones about not making your bike look like what some would consider Sh1t. But I think not having your pockets crammed full to bursting with stuff digging into you, not riding in a position that hurts your back, neck and wrists, and carrying enough to drink is more important than what other riders may think your bike looks like.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,854
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    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,725

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
    no its not.

    its about not making your bike lookshit.
    Oh? Well Rule 29 says no saddle bags, Rule 30 says no frame mounted pumps, Rule 31 says spare tubes, multi-tools and repair kits should be stored in jersey pockets, rule 45 says slam your stem, Rule 52 says bidons are to be small in size, 500-610ml maximum, no extra large vessels are to be seen on one’s machine. Two cages can be mounted, but only one bidon on rides under two hours is to be employed… Sounds an awful lot like The Rules to me, or at least the ones about not making your bike look like what some would consider censored . But I think not having your pockets crammed full to bursting with stuff digging into you, not riding in a position that hurts your back, neck and wrists, and carrying enough to drink is more important than what other riders may think your bike looks like.

    It's the socks comment that's upset you isn't it?

    You wear little trainer liner socks don't you.

    Pervert.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
    no its not.

    its about not making your bike lookshit.
    Oh? Well Rule 29 says no saddle bags, Rule 30 says no frame mounted pumps, Rule 31 says spare tubes, multi-tools and repair kits should be stored in jersey pockets, rule 45 says slam your stem, Rule 52 says bidons are to be small in size, 500-610ml maximum, no extra large vessels are to be seen on one’s machine. Two cages can be mounted, but only one bidon on rides under two hours is to be employed… Sounds an awful lot like The Rules to me, or at least the ones about not making your bike look like what some would consider censored . But I think not having your pockets crammed full to bursting with stuff digging into you, not riding in a position that hurts your back, neck and wrists, and carrying enough to drink is more important than what other riders may think your bike looks like.

    thanks for pointing that out but as i don't actually know much about the rules or read them its good to have someone to do it for me.

    its about not having your bike lookshyte - call it the MF rules of not having your bike look shite.

    tbh, i'm not sure why people want want to carry sandwiches, cakes and all that jazz.

    ok, i ride tubs, so no inner tubes, so: back pockets:

    Middle pocket: 'phone with bank card and £20 note in the case.

    Left hand pockey: 1 or if i'm feeling extravagent, 2 cans of Vittoria pit stop with presta/schrader adaptor taped on.

    Right hand pocket: gels and tiny cafe lock that I paid €1.50 for in a French supermarket.

    I'll have either a Co2 nozzle and 2 canisters in a pocket (left hand) or if I'm feeling like impending doom, use one of those zip up things that go in a bottle cage with a small multi tool, some cable ties and a Leatherman.

    bottle in other cage.

    if you want a spare tube, tuck it/them under the saddle and tape it on.

    you may not mind your bike looking looking like a jeffy clubbie machine with a stupid suitcase under the saddle but hey, some of us don't want to look total honking websters and have enough of the 7Ps not to need to.


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    the fact that someone wanted to fit mudguards and an under saddle suitcase to it cannot and must not be ignored.

    such sacriligious acts to a CAAD are abominable and should never be condoned.


    This is The Rules, isn't it? That stuff about correct sock length, angle of QR levers and so on. In which case, I'm inclined to get as big a saddle pack as I can find.
    no its not.

    its about not making your bike lookshit.
    Oh? Well Rule 29 says no saddle bags, Rule 30 says no frame mounted pumps, Rule 31 says spare tubes, multi-tools and repair kits should be stored in jersey pockets, rule 45 says slam your stem, Rule 52 says bidons are to be small in size, 500-610ml maximum, no extra large vessels are to be seen on one’s machine. Two cages can be mounted, but only one bidon on rides under two hours is to be employed… Sounds an awful lot like The Rules to me, or at least the ones about not making your bike look like what some would consider censored . But I think not having your pockets crammed full to bursting with stuff digging into you, not riding in a position that hurts your back, neck and wrists, and carrying enough to drink is more important than what other riders may think your bike looks like.

    It's the socks comment that's upset you isn't it?

    You wear little trainer liner socks don't you.

    Pervert.
    bet he's got loads of spacers and a pointed up stem as well.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,203
    I’m worried that MF has spent so long doing his wind-ups that he’s actually starting to believe them.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Mad_Malx said:

    I’m worried that MF has spent so long doing his wind-ups that he’s actually starting to believe them.

    errr. no.

    i don't have, or feel the need, to haveshit all over my bikes, as can be seen from past pictures of them on here.

    in fact i don't really understand people's obsessions with having shitall over their bikes. its just a bit weird.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    All you need, ever. In fact, the zippy thing have got a couple of quick links, a tyre lever for when i'm instructing and a valve extension it it as well, but quite why i'm not sure.




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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    back pockets (plus 'phone


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    on bike


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,725
    From a distance looks too much like mismatched bidons. Points off.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    It could be because oblongaboringuzzzz rides in a 3rd world war zone bereft of shops, petrol stations, cafes or even someone selling weed and bacon rolls from a roadside van in a layby but i have honestly, truly, deeply never suffered TO THE POINT OF DEATH from not lugging all theshit he obviously does around with him.

    perhaps its because i'm ally and he's not not. and we all know what ally does.....
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    slammed, minus 10. not one back back, wrist or neck in riding with this set up in 30 years.


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:

    Meh. I do it all the time. Add on a pocket cable lock for peace of mind. Won't stop a proper bike thief but will stop an opportunist. Phone is already in the pocket and the computer joins it.

    this
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    From a distance looks too much like mismatched bidons. Points off.

    good point very well presented.

    i'l dump the things of tools and just make sure my bikes aren'tshit.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.