Flying to outer space
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14x as big to blue orbital it turns out.rjsterry said:
Yes, Saturn 5s are BIG.rick_chasey said:
Well turns out it's a 6th of the thrust of say, this rocket:rick_chasey said:Surprised how little smoke there is from take off, versus the rockets from 50 years ago.
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2020/09/Vega_lifts_off
so that's why.
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Nice for him, but as it didn't blow up and kill the rich guy, not sure why it's on the BBC news site.0
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A bit of a select club this, being a billionaire having rockets n stuff.0 -
This should go in the "learnt thread" but still, a human can go into space and land quicker than some posts take to appear on this forum.0
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Why paying tax when you can build a rocket instead?left the forum March 20230
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cheapest place to buy Deda handlebar tape though....ugo.santalucia said:
Vast majority is Chinese plastic tat and low quality tools... you should be able to get the good stuff from somewhere else. The notable exception are books no longer in print, which only seem to sell second hand on Amazon.focuszing723 said:I would question the products from Amazon are rubbish part, but I admire your stance.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The tour around Cape Canaveral is fantastic. They have a Saturn 5 and it is unbelievably big, the re-entry pod is correspondingly small. They painted the stars and stripes on the outside of the assembley building and each star is 6 feet in diameter.rick_chasey said:
14x as big to blue orbital it turns out.rjsterry said:
Yes, Saturn 5s are BIG.rick_chasey said:
Well turns out it's a 6th of the thrust of say, this rocket:rick_chasey said:Surprised how little smoke there is from take off, versus the rockets from 50 years ago.
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2020/09/Vega_lifts_off
so that's why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_orbital_rocket_engines0 -
bit of a penis shaped rocket, Bezos' one innit?left the forum March 20230
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ugo.santalucia said:
bit of a penis shaped rocket, Bezos' one innit?
He's going to shudder when he reads this.
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Went there a few years back, well worth a visit. As you say, it's big.surrey_commuter said:
The tour around Cape Canaveral is fantastic. They have a Saturn 5 and it is unbelievably big, the re-entry pod is correspondingly small. They painted the stars and stripes on the outside of the assembley building and each star is 6 feet in diameter.rick_chasey said:
14x as big to blue orbital it turns out.rjsterry said:
Yes, Saturn 5s are BIG.rick_chasey said:
Well turns out it's a 6th of the thrust of say, this rocket:rick_chasey said:Surprised how little smoke there is from take off, versus the rockets from 50 years ago.
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2020/09/Vega_lifts_off
so that's why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_orbital_rocket_engines
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Abramovich must feel a bit of a non-entity or dinosaur only having his superyacht and jet. Maybe we should have a whip round.focuszing723 said:
A bit of a select club this, being a billionaire having rockets n stuff.0 -
Maybe not spunking money on a football club is the key factor in being able to afford participation in a space race.Pross said:
Abramovich must feel a bit of a non-entity or dinosaur only having his superyacht and jet. Maybe we should have a whip round.focuszing723 said:
A bit of a select club this, being a billionaire having rockets n stuff.0 -
If we all clubbed together in a pact where we cannot pass someone in the street who has been on one of these trips without booting them in the nuts full bore the world would be a better place. I can't think of a more in your face act of eco vandalism as this.0
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Mind you. By my own logic, I can now build a rocket.morstar said:
Maybe not spunking money on a football club is the key factor in being able to afford participation in a space race.Pross said:
Abramovich must feel a bit of a non-entity or dinosaur only having his superyacht and jet. Maybe we should have a whip round.focuszing723 said:
A bit of a select club this, being a billionaire having rockets n stuff.
Maybe it is ‘a’ factor and not the key one.1 -
Lol. These people don't walk about in the street.john80 said:If we all clubbed together in a pact where we cannot pass someone in the street who has been on one of these trips without booting them in the nuts full bore the world would be a better place. I can't think of a more in your face act of eco vandalism as this.
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No man is an islandrjsterry said:
Lol. These people don't walk about in the street.john80 said:If we all clubbed together in a pact where we cannot pass someone in the street who has been on one of these trips without booting them in the nuts full bore the world would be a better place. I can't think of a more in your face act of eco vandalism as this.
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Flesh Gordon, 1974 (very) soft pornougo.santalucia said:bit of a penis shaped rocket, Bezos' one innit?
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I tried to raise the issue of whether these chaps are going to outer space and it does seem that there is a lot of doubt about Branson but that Bezos definitely did as he went above the Karman line.0
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But he can own one.john80 said:
No man is an islandrjsterry said:
Lol. These people don't walk about in the street.john80 said:If we all clubbed together in a pact where we cannot pass someone in the street who has been on one of these trips without booting them in the nuts full bore the world would be a better place. I can't think of a more in your face act of eco vandalism as this.
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Maybe it's like going on a cross channel ferry but not getting off. You've definitely been in French waters, and you can see France, so I guess you've been to France. But it's not really much of a trip to France.surrey_commuter said:I tried to raise the issue of whether these chaps are going to outer space and it does seem that there is a lot of doubt about Branson but that Bezos definitely did as he went above the Karman line.
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How much of his £1.2bn Virgin financial bailout has dear Richard spent on his not quite there yet 'space' jaunt? Though it was 'A Grand Day Out'.0
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Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.0
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For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
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Branson’s is the only limited one. It is a tourism plane with limited further scope.
Bezos has a much larger project of which this is just one part.
10 minutes from start to finish, while friendly to viewing does seem a remarkably short hop though. A lot of distance covered in that time mind.0 -
Getting the market to valuate a second rate car manufacturer at multiples of the next best car manufacturer is a much bigger achievement.surrey_commuter said:
For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
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Not disputing its over valued status, but are they not becoming a battery manufacturer with a sideline in cars?rick_chasey said:
Getting the market to valuate a second rate car manufacturer at multiples of the next best car manufacturer is a much bigger achievement.surrey_commuter said:
For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
They have been the leading light in transforming the image of electric cars to vehicles that have widespread consumer appeal too.
Their quality issues are pretty shocking though.0 -
I am regurgitating what I have read from elsewhere, that their batteries are as good as the other leaders but no better.Jezyboy said:
Not disputing its over valued status, but are they not becoming a battery manufacturer with a sideline in cars?rick_chasey said:
Getting the market to valuate a second rate car manufacturer at multiples of the next best car manufacturer is a much bigger achievement.surrey_commuter said:
For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
They have been the leading light in transforming the image of electric cars to vehicles that have widespread consumer appeal too.
Their quality issues are pretty shocking though.0 -
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One of the key things they have done is design an electric car from the ground up.rick_chasey said:
I am regurgitating what I have read from elsewhere, that their batteries are as good as the other leaders but no better.Jezyboy said:
Not disputing its over valued status, but are they not becoming a battery manufacturer with a sideline in cars?rick_chasey said:
Getting the market to valuate a second rate car manufacturer at multiples of the next best car manufacturer is a much bigger achievement.surrey_commuter said:
For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
They have been the leading light in transforming the image of electric cars to vehicles that have widespread consumer appeal too.
Their quality issues are pretty shocking though.
Not simply convert existing designs to electric.0 -
The new 4680 batteries are are significant step up. Not just the batteries themselves but the manufacturing process. The new packs will about half the price for same energy storage and less weight. This will give us £20k cars with 250-300 mile range.rick_chasey said:
I am regurgitating what I have read from elsewhere, that their batteries are as good as the other leaders but no better.Jezyboy said:
Not disputing its over valued status, but are they not becoming a battery manufacturer with a sideline in cars?rick_chasey said:
Getting the market to valuate a second rate car manufacturer at multiples of the next best car manufacturer is a much bigger achievement.surrey_commuter said:
For me Branson and Bezos have provided a benchmark to show us how great Musk’s achievement iskingstongraham said:Elon musk seems to be the one actually getting on with it and putting shit in space.
They have been the leading light in transforming the image of electric cars to vehicles that have widespread consumer appeal too.
Their quality issues are pretty shocking though.0