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It's going to be quite a sight when that takes off. I expect there may be issues to start with, but the evolution will be quick, as per the company.0 -
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Someone did some sums and worked out that the idiot $20 for verified accounts idea would raise slightly more than one day's worth of advertising revenue.briantrumpet said:Pick a number...
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Musk, an bell-end risk taking engineer, taking control of something who's success is entirely a social phenomenon rather than a technical one, will be a great illustration of the limits of that kind of expertise.
Social Media. Technology it ain't.0 -
rick_chasey said:
Musk, an bell-end risk taking engineer, taking control of something who's success is entirely a social phenomenon rather than a technical one, will be a great illustration of the limits of that kind of expertise.
Social Media. Technology it ain't.
He's going for the Ratner Prize with his Twitter 'experiment'.0 -
The S-IP rightly taken flak for retweeting afterwards deleting a total BS 'story' about Pelosi's husband had been in a homosexual falling out with some guy hence the injuries suffered, rather than a nutjob broke in and attacked him. Is Muskrat a cokehead?0
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Presumably the first reply to that was why did you buy it then?briantrumpet said:Pick a number...
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Well, and I will say well again for good measure. It's a lot of fine bone china plates to spin and it will be interesting to see how it develops.
We all use it as a resource to current cutting edge information. How do you profit from that apart from advertising revenue?
Pheffff, the time ticks by and sleeping on floors for three years isn't going to get easier.
His best quote in my mind is "Nobody bleeds for the King in his castle". Something like that, which to me is his greatest achievement. It's got employees committed to the cause and venture capitalist to chuck the money his way when the $h1ts hitting the fan and chips are down.
Tick, tick...
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Meh I think he's got a better chance of making more of a success of twitter than old Zuckerberg has of getting the world to wear vr headsets.rick_chasey said:Musk, an bell-end risk taking engineer, taking control of something who's success is entirely a social phenomenon rather than a technical one, will be a great illustration of the limits of that kind of expertise.
Social Media. Technology it ain't.
And as ever, if he can convince right wing idiots to purchase green technology to "own the libs" then it's probably a win overall0 -
Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.0
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The only thing I can say to that is. That's exactly what people said about him with regards to starting Tesla and SpaceX.briantrumpet said:Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.
Personally, I think he's spinning too many plates now, but I wouldn't question his work ethic, intelligence and commitment. I also wouldn't bet against him, history is on his side.
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"He tries really hard"1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I think there’s a difference between starting as a smaller player and overtaking the big boys with innovation than buying an expensive unproductive product for top dollar.focuszing723 said:
The only thing I can say to that is. That's exactly what people said about him with regards to starting Tesla and SpaceX.briantrumpet said:Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.
Personally, I think he's spinning too many plates now, but I wouldn't question his work ethic, intelligence and commitment. I also wouldn't bet against him, history is on his side.
It will be interesting where it goes though. Monetising the internet is still evolving.
Is the product too big for people to turn away from or will it spiral rapidly downwards? It does need an alternative to gain enough mass for people to be prepared to jump.0 -
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morstar said:
I think there’s a difference between starting as a smaller player and overtaking the big boys with innovation than buying an expensive unproductive product for top dollar.focuszing723 said:
The only thing I can say to that is. That's exactly what people said about him with regards to starting Tesla and SpaceX.briantrumpet said:Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.
Personally, I think he's spinning too many plates now, but I wouldn't question his work ethic, intelligence and commitment. I also wouldn't bet against him, history is on his side.
It will be interesting where it goes though. Monetising the internet is still evolving.
Is the product too big for people to turn away from or will it spiral rapidly downwards? It does need an alternative to gain enough mass for people to be prepared to jump.
Other than Telegram, are there any other big enough players out there who could adapt? Instagram?? I reckon a trickle could turn into a flood pretty quickly. Even in the days of MSN and Bebo, things changed pretty quickly, despite it being relatively early days of the social media world.0 -
I remember MySpace. And Rupert Murdoch buying that for a load of dosh. And it falling, falling away... But Muskrat is a genius so no worries mate.0
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Somebody mentioned Zoom earlier and how it is now a main platform having been relatively small pre covid.briantrumpet said:morstar said:
I think there’s a difference between starting as a smaller player and overtaking the big boys with innovation than buying an expensive unproductive product for top dollar.focuszing723 said:
The only thing I can say to that is. That's exactly what people said about him with regards to starting Tesla and SpaceX.briantrumpet said:Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.
Personally, I think he's spinning too many plates now, but I wouldn't question his work ethic, intelligence and commitment. I also wouldn't bet against him, history is on his side.
It will be interesting where it goes though. Monetising the internet is still evolving.
Is the product too big for people to turn away from or will it spiral rapidly downwards? It does need an alternative to gain enough mass for people to be prepared to jump.
Other than Telegram, are there any other big enough players out there who could adapt? Instagram?? I reckon a trickle could turn into a flood pretty quickly. Even in the days of MSN and Bebo, things changed pretty quickly, despite it being relatively early days of the social media world.
Whilst covid was an external event, if Musk tries to out think the market, he could copy Truss and Kwarteng with a massive miscalculation and some lucky platform could be the next Zoom.
It seems unlikely but I do think there is a real risk of a Ratner moment.
I’d be very surprised if there aren’t some very good platforms out there.
Maybe everyone will come to cake stop.0 -
morstar said:
Somebody mentioned Zoom earlier and how it is now a main platform having been relatively small pre covid.briantrumpet said:morstar said:
I think there’s a difference between starting as a smaller player and overtaking the big boys with innovation than buying an expensive unproductive product for top dollar.focuszing723 said:
The only thing I can say to that is. That's exactly what people said about him with regards to starting Tesla and SpaceX.briantrumpet said:Well, he's doing the $8 thing, and anyone can buy one, so destroying the main reason for it. Maybe he's aiming high and going for the Truss-Ratner Prize. It's one way to spaff $44bn up the wall, the way that geniuses do.
Personally, I think he's spinning too many plates now, but I wouldn't question his work ethic, intelligence and commitment. I also wouldn't bet against him, history is on his side.
It will be interesting where it goes though. Monetising the internet is still evolving.
Is the product too big for people to turn away from or will it spiral rapidly downwards? It does need an alternative to gain enough mass for people to be prepared to jump.
Other than Telegram, are there any other big enough players out there who could adapt? Instagram?? I reckon a trickle could turn into a flood pretty quickly. Even in the days of MSN and Bebo, things changed pretty quickly, despite it being relatively early days of the social media world.
Whilst covid was an external event, if Musk tries to out think the market, he could copy Truss and Kwarteng with a massive miscalculation and some lucky platform could be the next Zoom.
It seems unlikely but I do think there is a real risk of a Ratner moment.
I’d be very surprised if there aren’t some very good platforms out there.
Maybe everyone will come to cake stop.
That was me & Zoom.
Actually, that's one player I don't think would be interested (I know you weren't implying they were), even if they do know how to scale up quickly (and by deft moves overtook Google Meet, MS Teams etc, even if they've lost the edge now).
I've actually not got into any of the other messaging apps (as I assume they all work off monetising the info users give them via the apps), so don't know how they might adapt. I've stuck with Facebook, but never use the app itself. I have used Twitter a lot since Trump, because of the speed and range of people posting instantaneous snippets, but I'd not hesitate to migrate if Musk Trumpifies Twitter, and the useful Tweeters migrate en masse to another platform sans Musk.0 -
Google could be the perfect organisation with the resources to fill the gap but they have no perseverance.
They drop stuff so quickly if it isn’t instantly successful.
I actually find it refreshing to not support projects that are clearly going nowhere as I’ve made a point of that myself in my career but you can take it too far the other way.
Microsoft keep dabbling with the consumer market but always just go back into their corporate shell. Considering how they’re converging all their platforms with very little fanfare, they could easily fill a Twitter void if they were more sexy.0 -
Nah, agree can't see Google or MS filling that void... too much monolithic inertia, plus it's just not they their kinda thang.
Tiktogram, possibly.0 -
The genius is doing his best to beat the Truss-Kwarteng record for crash & burn. He's plssed off a good portion of the people who post, now he's going for the advertisers.
Cabbage time?
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Instagram is a very different beast to twitter.briantrumpet said:Nah, agree can't see Google or MS filling that void... too much monolithic inertia, plus it's just not they their kinda thang.
Tiktogram, possibly.
It's also owned by Facebook, and their wise leader is busy splurging billions on a his own truly dire vision of virtual reality.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Yeah, although I don't use Instagram at all, I gather it's what 'young people' use to share photos n stuff, and doubt if Zuckerberg has his finger on the Twitter pulse.pangolin said:
Instagram is a very different beast to twitter.briantrumpet said:Nah, agree can't see Google or MS filling that void... too much monolithic inertia, plus it's just not they their kinda thang.
Tiktogram, possibly.
It's also owned by Facebook, and their wise leader is busy splurging billions on a his own truly dire vision of virtual reality.
It's just going to be interesting if someone can exploit the missteps of Musk quickly enough to get a head start on the others.0 -
It is doable. TikTok isn’t very old and it appears to me to be more prevalent now for youngsters than YouTube.0
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morstar said:
It is doable. TikTok isn’t very old and it appears to me to be more prevalent now for youngsters than YouTube.
If only I'd progressed beyond Basic and onto Fortran when I was at school...0 -
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rick_chasey said:
He’s having a proper meltdown on the very thing he just bought.
My Truss-Kwarteng reference wasn't facetious: he's taken over something he doesn't understand, and thinks he can bend the social media phenomenon to his will.0
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