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His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
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It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.0 -
That wouldn't be nice.0
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-05-17/elon-musk-does-not-care-about-spam-botsfocuszing723 said:
If it's that simple, explain it to me?pangolin said:
People have explained this several times and provided links you aren't interesting in reading.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
His Twitter bid succeeded. On April 25, Twitter and Musk issued a joint press release announcing that he had agreed to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share. The press release included a quote from Musk promising to “make Twitter better” by, among other things, “defeating the spam bots.” He was really mad at the spam bots! He wanted to buy Twitter because of the spam bots.
Yesterday he announced that he does not want to buy Twitter because of the spam bots:
Not that you seem interested- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Eastenders set.
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Goodness knows why you stan the ridiculous manchild so much. He's made an unsubstantiated claim that the 5% estimate is materially inaccurate but can't back it up, so has just made some hand-wavy claims to try to cover the fact that his wheeze hasn't worked. It's embarrassing to watch.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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That's quite a difference.0
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If Twitter didn't have any real users and had hid this fact from the world, then he would win an MAE argument, but it does have users including Musk. He signed a deal with what is known as an MAE qualifier and his lawyers would have been advised just how difficult it is to win an MAE argument. So the options available are as follows: (i) he is so arrogant he ignored his lawyers advice (ii) he didn't understand his lawyers advice and failed to seek clarity (iii) he is trying it on, because the deal doesn't look as good any more.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.0 -
Where does it mention percentages there!?pangolin said:
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-05-17/elon-musk-does-not-care-about-spam-botsfocuszing723 said:
If it's that simple, explain it to me?pangolin said:
People have explained this several times and provided links you aren't interesting in reading.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
His Twitter bid succeeded. On April 25, Twitter and Musk issued a joint press release announcing that he had agreed to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share. The press release included a quote from Musk promising to “make Twitter better” by, among other things, “defeating the spam bots.” He was really mad at the spam bots! He wanted to buy Twitter because of the spam bots.
Yesterday he announced that he does not want to buy Twitter because of the spam bots:
Not that you seem interested0 -
Just because he does good stuff with electric cars and batteries and fun stuff with rockets doesn't mean he's infallible.0
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There are those who say his rocket didn't go as far as space.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The article mentions percentages 38 times.focuszing723 said:
Where does it mention percentages there!?pangolin said:
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-05-17/elon-musk-does-not-care-about-spam-botsfocuszing723 said:
If it's that simple, explain it to me?pangolin said:
People have explained this several times and provided links you aren't interesting in reading.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
His Twitter bid succeeded. On April 25, Twitter and Musk issued a joint press release announcing that he had agreed to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share. The press release included a quote from Musk promising to “make Twitter better” by, among other things, “defeating the spam bots.” He was really mad at the spam bots! He wanted to buy Twitter because of the spam bots.
Yesterday he announced that he does not want to buy Twitter because of the spam bots:
Not that you seem interested- Genesis Croix de Fer
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That was the other one.pblakeney said:
There are those who say his rocket didn't go as far as space.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.0 -
Because he had the guts to do not one but two completely insane things. Build a bloody ROCKET and successfully take people into space. Also, take on the CAR industry and actually survive. Three bloody years he slept on the floor trying to get the model three's production right.rjsterry said:
Goodness knows why you stan the ridiculous manchild so much. He's made an unsubstantiated claim that the 5% estimate is materially inaccurate but can't back it up, so has just made some hand-wavy claims to try to cover the fact that his wheeze hasn't worked. It's embarrassing to watch.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.
Come on, why are you all so agnostic towards a big innovator? How the hell do you think we are able to do what we are doing right now?
People like Musk.
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You shouldn't be using the Internet, you should be in a cave making bits of wicker $h1t.kingstongraham said:Just because he does good stuff with electric cars and batteries and fun stuff with rockets doesn't mean he's infallible.
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To boldly go where no autonomous AI drone thingy has gone before...0
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It's the problem with idolising people. In the end, you realise they are all humans really.0
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Post Shortfall, Musk damn it!?1
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Mate, we've been building rockets since the 1950s. That just requires money, not guts. He has successfully produced a luxury car, which has some useful innovations. Frankly, the innovation per dollar spent is somewhat underwhelming.focuszing723 said:
Because he had the guts to do not one but two completely insane things. Build a bloody ROCKET and successfully take people into space. Also, take on the CAR industry and actually survive. Three bloody years he slept on the floor trying to get the model three's production right.rjsterry said:
Goodness knows why you stan the ridiculous manchild so much. He's made an unsubstantiated claim that the 5% estimate is materially inaccurate but can't back it up, so has just made some hand-wavy claims to try to cover the fact that his wheeze hasn't worked. It's embarrassing to watch.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.
Come on, why are you all so agnostic towards a big innovator? How the hell do you think we are able to do what we are doing right now?
People like Musk.
Simple answer.
How much do you think Tim Berners-Lee spent?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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He was at Cern, close to a billion a year?rjsterry said:
Mate, we've been building rockets since the 1950s. That just requires money, not guts. He has successfully produced a luxury car, which has some useful innovations. Frankly, the innovation per dollar spent is somewhat underwhelming.focuszing723 said:
Because he had the guts to do not one but two completely insane things. Build a bloody ROCKET and successfully take people into space. Also, take on the CAR industry and actually survive. Three bloody years he slept on the floor trying to get the model three's production right.rjsterry said:
Goodness knows why you stan the ridiculous manchild so much. He's made an unsubstantiated claim that the 5% estimate is materially inaccurate but can't back it up, so has just made some hand-wavy claims to try to cover the fact that his wheeze hasn't worked. It's embarrassing to watch.focuszing723 said:
It's fundamental to the business model, though.TheBigBean said:
His only get out of jail free card is to prove it has a material adverse effect on the pricing. Lawyers can argue about that for a long time, but I doubt he will win. If he wins, he gets out of jail, but he doesn't get a discount to buy again.focuszing723 said:
Didn't the big wigs at Twitter claim 5% of their users were fake? This needs clarification as it's directly connected to revenue via advertising (misrepresentation).TheBigBean said:
Said he would buy something and then claimed his fingers were crossed the whole time.focuszing723 said:Ok, let's have the salient point then of what he's done wrong?
A discount seems fair if this is the case.
It's a bit like Musk saying "I have this rocket that will take you into space", yet it ends up taking you to the Eastenders set.
Come on, why are you all so agnostic towards a big innovator? How the hell do you think we are able to do what we are doing right now?
People like Musk.
Simple answer.
How much do you think Tim Berners-Lee spent?0 -
...Im only huuuuman, borrrrrrn to maaaake mistaaaaakessss...TheBigBean said:It's the problem with idolising people. In the end, you realise they all humans really.
First Principles though and evolve.0 -
Elon for Pope.focuszing723 said:
You shouldn't be using the Internet, you should be in a cave making bits of wicker $h1t.kingstongraham said:Just because he does good stuff with electric cars and batteries and fun stuff with rockets doesn't mean he's infallible.
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Nope, just cracking on with the future, he's no dope.kingstongraham said:
Elon for Pope.focuszing723 said:
You shouldn't be using the Internet, you should be in a cave making bits of wicker $h1t.kingstongraham said:Just because he does good stuff with electric cars and batteries and fun stuff with rockets doesn't mean he's infallible.
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The landing the rocket is the insane bit.
Surely the fan boi knows that.0 -
focuszing723 said:
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I do find it incredible, the design and construction of these massive factories. All the lorry loading bays, production line...0 -
Almost as incredible as musk having IVF with his mistress while his actual missus is pregnant with his second child 😲0
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Ah, yeah, it will be fascinating Rick.rick_chasey said:Elon musk is incredible, I'm really looking forward to the launch of StarShip, Wow 😲
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There’s an economist podcast looking at EVs which may be of interest to you.
Highlights the challenges of achieving the switch.
Big challenge is the batteries. Nickel, lithium and cobalt all have their own problems, some of which are to do with refining to make to useable in battery manufacturing. It can be highly energy inefficient which defeats the point and China has a near monopoly on refining those metals, so there are geopolitical risks too.
You should listen - it’s more nuanced and detailed than all that.0 -
Cheers.rick_chasey said:There’s an economist podcast looking at EVs which may be of interest to you.
Highlights the challenges of achieving the switch.
Big challenge is the batteries. Nickel, lithium and cobalt all have their own problems, some of which are to do with refining to make to useable in battery manufacturing. It can be highly energy inefficient which defeats the point and China has a near monopoly on refining those metals, so there are geopolitical risks too.
You should listen - it’s more nuanced and detailed than all that.
Na-ion (sodium) batteries look interesting. It sound's like they aren't up to lithium levels in term of mAh capacity yet though.
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