saturday renormalising the thirteen infinities of the quantum pineapple
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You see how fit they are Elbow - they are so fit, they can sit on the wall.
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Yay, spiderdogs.pinno said:You see how fit they are Elbow - they are so fit, they can sit on the wall.
Anyone remember this little practical joke?
https://youtu.be/YoB8t0B4jx4 "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Been doing one of my chains (road bike) with the 'oz style' wax mix from last summer and now part way through the winter, re-lube every 200 miles. So far I'm 100% impressed with the results, chain wear, mess, overall time it takes are all winners. I started off the intention of giving it a years trial. At this rate I'll be converting all my other bikes to this method as they need new chains.MattFalle said:
More info on hot wax though would be v gratefully received
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Nah - Veet it dude.thistle_ said:
Got some hair that needs removing?MattFalle said:More info on hot wax though would be v gratefully received
https://www.boots.com/toiletries/skincare-female-hair-removal/wax-strips
Waxy Becka used to hot wax me but even after 3 years of it it friggin' hurt, so never again.
Now, hot candle wax on certain bits..... thats another thread altogether..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I tried it on my winter bike for a bit but just couldn't get on with it. Didn't stand up well to commuting and sitting wet throughout the day in the work bike racks. Reverted back to white lightning wet lube for that bike but just being religious about removing excess and cleaning weekly to prevent issues with mess.Charlie_Croker said:
Been doing one of my chains (road bike) with the 'oz style' wax mix from last summer and now part way through the winter, re-lube every 200 miles. So far I'm 100% impressed with the results, chain wear, mess, overall time it takes are all winners. I started off the intention of giving it a years trial. At this rate I'll be converting all my other bikes to this method as they need new chains.MattFalle said:
More info on hot wax though would be v gratefully received
The dry bike though, works an absolute treat. Absolute convert. Like you I re-wax it every 200 miles. Whip the chain off, pour boiling water over it and wipe down, stick in melted wax in the slow cooker for 15 mins or so, take out and leave to dry, loosen it up a bit and pop back on the bike.0 -
What stuff do you use dude?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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For a turbo bike this could be a winner..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Hmmm, might have to investigate this wax malarkey further, but not for bikes used in wet wintery conditions then. Tried Squirt as Piña recommended which was great in summer but didn't cope well with winter commuting. I reverted to wet lube but come the imminent spring clean up I'll replace the chain and go back to it.
Spider dogs cracked me up without having to press play, remember it well.0 -
Refined paraffin wax. You can get it in bead form on eBay and the like. For extra lube then add some very fine teflon powder but not essential, especially if you're just using on the turbo.
Most important thing is starting with an absolutely spotless sterile chain so the first application of wax holds properly.
Just Google 'oz cycle' and see his YouTube vids, explains it all there. If you like bike geekery then it's very interesting, may be a bit ott for some people though.1 -
Interesting, I wasn’t sure about winter conditions here in the UK. The Utube videos in oz are nearly always sunny and dry. I wait until the chain is dry then simply wipe with a soft dry brush to remove any grit or dirt. If the chain doesn’t dry I squirt with COLD water (not pressure wash) but don’t touch it, same as when washing the bike. This seems to work fine.nibnob21 said:
I tried it on my winter bike for a bit but just couldn't get on with it. Didn't stand up well to commuting and sitting wet throughout the day in the work bike racks. Reverted back to white lightning wet lube for that bike but just being religious about removing excess and cleaning weekly to prevent issues with mess.Charlie_Croker said:
Been doing one of my chains (road bike) with the 'oz style' wax mix from last summer and now part way through the winter, re-lube every 200 miles. So far I'm 100% impressed with the results, chain wear, mess, overall time it takes are all winners. I started off the intention of giving it a years trial. At this rate I'll be converting all my other bikes to this method as they need new chains.MattFalle said:
More info on hot wax though would be v gratefully received
I did have a couple of side plates show a little rust colour once, but now (winter time) I use the MTB method after re-lubing, that is to say, I don’t wipe the excess wax off. Leaving a thick layer on the outer plates to protect against salt n rain and the like. So far so good.
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To be fair the chain I tried the wax on for winter wasn't as well prepared as it could have been. But even using a decent wax based lube became more hassle than it was worth over winter, and despite being very religious with keeping it clean etc the chain still wore out quickly. This was on an old 5 speed though so the chain was far less refined in its construction compared to modern stuff, so the additional movement and slack in the chain may not have helped things.
On the modern summer bike though, fantastic. Wouldn't go back now. A year on and the chain and cassette still look brand new.
...anyway, this isn't really BB chat so it may deserve a thread of its own somewhere else.0 -
incorrect - this is BB chat. BB is a haven of knowledge.nibnob21 said:To be fair the chain I tried the wax on for winter wasn't as well prepared as it could have been. But even using a decent wax based lube became more hassle than it was worth over winter, and despite being very religious with keeping it clean etc the chain still wore out quickly. This was on an old 5 speed though so the chain was far less refined in its construction compared to modern stuff, so the additional movement and slack in the chain may not have helped things.
On the modern summer bike though, fantastic. Wouldn't go back now. A year on and the chain and cassette still look brand new.
...anyway, this isn't really BB chat so it may deserve a thread of its own somewhere else..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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In which case I'll settle myself in!0
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starting c. a year ago i tried the old* ufo wax lube (dries completely dry like hot-dip wax)MattFalle said:For a turbo bike this could be a winner.
through the summer it was great and even after a few weeks in lanzarote that usually leave the drivetrain coated in lava sludge things were still amazingly clean
for the soggy months i've switched back to the rocknroll gold chains, probably start the waxy ones again april-ish
indoors you'll probably find bits of excess wax being shed, assuming your turbo isn't on carpet that's no big deal
lot of comparison data here...
https://zerofrictioncycling.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Key-Learnings-from-Lubricant-Testing-Round-1.pdf
* there's a new version reportedly easier to apply and longer lasting, not tried it yet, the original version really needed the chain to be warm (it also needed decanting into a better bottle as the supplied one had a poor spout and didn't seal well either)my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
grazie!sungod said:
starting c. a year ago i tried the old* ufo wax lube (dries completely dry like hot-dip wax)MattFalle said:For a turbo bike this could be a winner.
through the summer it was great and even after a few weeks in lanzarote that usually leave the drivetrain coated in lava sludge things were still amazingly clean
for the soggy months i've switched back to the rocknroll gold chains, probably start the waxy ones again april-ish
indoors you'll probably find bits of excess wax being shed, assuming your turbo isn't on carpet that's no big deal
lot of comparison data here...
https://zerofrictioncycling.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Key-Learnings-from-Lubricant-Testing-Round-1.pdf
* there's a new version reportedly easier to apply and longer lasting, not tried it yet, the original version really needed the chain to be warm (it also needed decanting into a better bottle as the supplied one had a poor spout and didn't seal well either).The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I only use lard on my chain.0
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Picked up some ebay bargain garden furniture from Hackbridge. One of those cube things with 4 chairs that slot into the space underneath when not in use.
Took dog and mini to V68's favourite stretch of muddy woodland, observed the same lack of golfists. Bought a sausage roll for me and a brownie for her. Hosed down the filthy mutt.
Went waitrose, got daffs for Mrs H³ from the kids. Wrapped up the present she wanted. Helped mini make a card. Got an embarrassing one for the boy to give his mother as he'll have forgotten.0 -
I've got some green stuff I use at the moment. White lightning is it? Leaves hardly any gunky crap, doesn't squeak, lasts long enough in the wet, quick gt85 of the chain,.and a rub down then reapply every so often. Mind you, I've not done too much riding this last year.elbowloh said:I only use lard on my chain.
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Ordered a new bike, wasn't asked at checkout if I was too heavy for it. Good job I'm a skinny bar steward and it's not a Giant.
Might even get delivered this side of Christmas
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I did do the hot wax + paraffin dip (but no Teflon) and it was fine until there was a wet day.sungod said:
* there's a new version reportedly easier to apply and longer lasting, not tried it yet, the original version really needed the chain to be warm (it also needed decanting into a better bottle as the supplied one had a poor spout and didn't seal well either)
I liked the way the dirt fell off the chain when you cleaned it by dipping in the wax.
Because of damp conditions, I switched to Squirt*. You simply have to allow to the transmission to dry and then re-lube, leave overnight after a wet ride.
*However, I got some UFO drip (way below RRP). The newer version SG.
It's highly temperature sensitive i'e, it will come out like porage unless the ambient temp is quite high. To guarantee the consistency, it needs to be above 23 deg c. I actually put the tub in a bain marie. They do say that isn't so important but you can't even get it clean out of the nozzle - seems to be the runny participle only.
You're supposed to only puncture the seal in the centre with the nozzle and not remove it.
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hmm, sounds much like the original onepinno said:...However, I got some UFO drip (way below RRP). The newer version SG.
It's highly temperature sensitive i'e, it will come out like porage unless the ambient temp is quite high. To guarantee the consistency, it needs to be above 23 deg c. I actually put the tub in a bain marie. They do say that isn't so important but you can't even get it clean out of the nozzle - seems to be the runny participle only.
You're supposed to only puncture the seal in the centre with the nozzle and not remove it.
with new chains i dry them in the oven after cleaning then put the ufo on while still warm
once on the bike, in the uk i generally had to use a heat gun to warm up the chain etc., otherwise it just set on the outside, but in warmer climes it was ok
the nozzle cap on the old one isn't a tight seal, it leaks, certainly useless for travel, but even when stationary people were reporting the solvent evaporating, hence the decanting - the solvents in ufo mess up some plastics, need to use the same type as the ufo bottle
which reminds me, i need to search out mine, no idea where i left it, just looked in the two 'obvious' places and it's not there
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he does seem rather sad and fragileoxoman said:Don't know, have asked him to be nice either way. Don't think its worked though as he's started spamming other peoples posts with his rant
br hasn't had decent moderation for years, tbh it's surprising there isn't more such drivelmy bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
If I have already spilt some of the solvent, i've already wasted x amount.sungod said:
hmm, sounds much like the original onepinno said:...However, I got some UFO drip (way below RRP). The newer version SG.
It's highly temperature sensitive i'e, it will come out like porage unless the ambient temp is quite high. To guarantee the consistency, it needs to be above 23 deg c. I actually put the tub in a bain marie. They do say that isn't so important but you can't even get it clean out of the nozzle - seems to be the runny participle only.
You're supposed to only puncture the seal in the centre with the nozzle and not remove it.
with new chains i dry them in the oven after cleaning then put the ufo on while still warm
once on the bike, in the uk i generally had to use a heat gun to warm up the chain etc., otherwise it just set on the outside, but in warmer climes it was ok
the nozzle cap on the old one isn't a tight seal, it leaks, certainly useless for travel, but even when stationary people were reporting the solvent evaporating, hence the decanting - the solvents in ufo mess up some plastics, need to use the same type as the ufo bottle
which reminds me, i need to search out mine, no idea where i left it, just looked in the two 'obvious' places and it's not there
Having to heat it up is a faff, which in Jockland would be... 51 weeks a year.
Can't believe you used a blow torch.
Haven't used it yet, so whether this is worth the bother over Squirt remains to be seen.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
errrr - whats going on around here today mecs?
first the mental TT'er then that woman and her Bianci with all her issues.
This is madder than a bag full of MFs.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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lockdown lunacy, the feeble minded are starting to crackMattFalle said:errrr - whats going on around here today mecs?
first the mental TT'er then that woman and her Bianci with all her issues.
This is madder than a bag full of MFs....
lack of moral fibre, send 'em to the jungle to get a sense of perspectivemy bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
No seen the Bianchi wumman. Linky?
Anthony R Brown is a belter though.0
