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I thought covid would improve motorist and cyclist interaction. I was wrong.

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  • thistle_thistle_ Posts: 5,145
    oxoman said:

    Cargo, problem with them recently is they don't always leave you the option to comment on real issues. They're definitely in a league of there own on click baiting.

    I think that's part of the problem: stories about idiot cyclists are dead cert clicks which gets them more ad revenue which is one of the few means they have to survive these days.
  • thistle_thistle_ Posts: 5,145
    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    nickice said:

    I almost think every driver should have to ride a bike in traffic as part of their training. It might give them some perspective.

    It should be part of the driving test. Saw a TV programme a few years back, which featured a London cabbie, who first gave his option of cyclists, the gist of which you can guess. Then they put him on a bike to see the other side of close passing, being cut up, etc. He was a nervous wreck afterwards!
    It would be discriminatory though, because not everyone can or is physically able to ride a bike. It is about as realistic a suggestion as saying that everyone should ride a horse as part of their driving test.
    Give them an e-bike/trike then?
    Or just sit on a chair while a lorry bombs past at 40 mph about 1 m away from you.
    Could result in someone getting hurt thinking about it.
    Actual real life test to replicate that which is safe. Stand next to the yellow line on a minor train platform when an intercity rolls through.
    You'd get the experience but trains don't tend to veer off course and hit you so it's reasonably safe...

  • webboowebboo Posts: 3,443
    Since lockdown I have seen more groups of male riders who appear to believe they can ride two abreast regardless of the road and traffic. I have seen them taking up the whole lane on a busy A road and also the all road on a single track road. I know legally you can do this but it is not going to make you too popular.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 15,236

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    nickice said:

    I almost think every driver should have to ride a bike in traffic as part of their training. It might give them some perspective.

    It should be part of the driving test. Saw a TV programme a few years back, which featured a London cabbie, who first gave his option of cyclists, the gist of which you can guess. Then they put him on a bike to see the other side of close passing, being cut up, etc. He was a nervous wreck afterwards!
    It would be discriminatory though, because not everyone can or is physically able to ride a bike. It is about as realistic a suggestion as saying that everyone should ride a horse as part of their driving test.
    Give them an e-bike/trike then?
    Or just sit on a chair while a lorry bombs past at 40 mph about 1 m away from you.
    Could result in someone getting hurt thinking about it.
    Actual real life test to replicate that which is safe. Stand next to the yellow line on a minor train platform when an intercity rolls through.
    You'd get the experience but trains don't tend to veer off course and hit you so it's reasonably safe...

    That's kind of the point. The wind rush and sensation is scary even with full knowledge of being safe. Ever tried it?
    Then explain that's what a high speed close pass feels like.
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  • oxoman said:

    Cargo, problem with them recently is they don't always leave you the option to comment on real issues. They're definitely in a league of there own on click baiting.

    Don't ever go on their Facebook page then. That's where all the open comments are. All the big-time Charlies egging each other on to run cyclists off the road.
    None of it is moderated.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,259
    Cargo, I don't do FB as I'd get sacked or locked up for basically telling the truth or saying it as is.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    nickice said:

    I almost think every driver should have to ride a bike in traffic as part of their training. It might give them some perspective.

    It should be part of the driving test. Saw a TV programme a few years back, which featured a London cabbie, who first gave his option of cyclists, the gist of which you can guess. Then they put him on a bike to see the other side of close passing, being cut up, etc. He was a nervous wreck afterwards!
    It would be discriminatory though, because not everyone can or is physically able to ride a bike. It is about as realistic a suggestion as saying that everyone should ride a horse as part of their driving test.
    Give them an e-bike/trike then?
    Or just sit on a chair while a lorry bombs past at 40 mph about 1 m away from you.
    Could result in someone getting hurt thinking about it.
    Actual real life test to replicate that which is safe. Stand next to the yellow line on a minor train platform when an intercity rolls through.
    You'd get the experience but trains don't tend to veer off course and hit you so it's reasonably safe...

    That's kind of the point. The wind rush and sensation is scary even with full knowledge of being safe. Ever tried it?
    Then explain that's what a high speed close pass feels like.
    the braver ones could ride a bike down the yellow line
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,575
    I just can't believe anyone visits that website for "news". It's some of worst writing I've witnessed.
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  • cruffcruff Posts: 1,517

    cruff said:

    Perhaps coning off one lane (a pop-up cycle lane) for cycling only would have been a safer option, certainly worth asking for I think.

    That happened on a dual carriageway time trial I did once (Rainford), except it was the local council who decided to set up some road works and close off a lane 5 minutes after the TT started.

    Ha - that's my local 10. With its own peculiar micro-climate - but its far safer than most of the other D or L courses
    Yeah it's surprisingly pleasant given that it includes a motorway junction, but it's never been busy when I've ridden on it. You just get lots of odd looks from motorists coming off the motorway while doing the U turn at the roundabout.
    I think the worst bit about the 10 course is the country lane to the start/finish because cars overtake when it's not safe to.
    Ah yes I̶n̶t̶a̶k̶e̶Overtake Lane 😏
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