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Rohan Dennis = 2020 TdF winner?

zest28zest28 Posts: 359
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Looks like TdF will be an e-race which plays into the strength of TT specialists like Rohan Dennis. He can go solo and people will not catch him.

Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.




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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,272
    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,641
    edited June 2020
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  • 50x1150x11 Posts: 317
    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,350
    Christ, go and post this bullshit somewhere else.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 55,922 Lives Here
    MvdP not a road cyclist?!
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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 15,818
    rick_chasey said:

    MvdP not a road cyclist?!

    Look who the OP is and ignore unless you want a chuckle.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,641
    Ah censored it's that dude....

    I didnt look, sorry
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  • skeetamskeetam Posts: 171
    RichN95. said:

    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.

    :D:D:D Both would get their legs ripped off in a top level Zwift race by old blokes in garages
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,009
    50x11 said:

    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
    Look at his other posts... It is trolling...
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 16,701
    RichN95. said:

    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.

    Weight doping is actually good for online cycling. Well known fact.
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,312
    Do those eventually caught keep their scale in their fridge as a reminder to never do it again?
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  • 50x1150x11 Posts: 317
    bobmcstuff said:

    50x11 said:

    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
    Look at his other posts... It is trolling...
    Yeah thought it was him, they should just close his account offers so little to this forum.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,009
    I don't know, some of the other threads have been OK. Least it means there are new threads!
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 17,909
    Well, it might be good for some news on the real Tour.



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  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 5,194
    blazing_saddles said:

    Well, it might be good for some news on the real Tour.



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  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 9,237
    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 55,922 Lives Here
    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
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  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 9,237
    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    That was the last rumour, just wondered if there was anything more concrete - when do they tend to announce all these things, after the tour, or right at the end of the season?
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  • phreakphreak Posts: 2,448
    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    So he really might be a Tour contender next year.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 16,701
    How's his sprinting?
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 9,237
    edited 19 July
    phreak said:

    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    So he really might be a Tour contender next year.
    Pretty sure he said he didn't want the pressure, and wanted to be a, highly talented, domestique instead.
    kingstongraham said:

    How's his sprinting?

    for ~50 minutes on the tri bars, pretty good I hear :D
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  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,312
    UAE could use him if he isn't too expensive. Pogacar has been dominating with half a team pretty much.
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  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 7,069
    Part of his problem may be his reputation as a bit awkward.
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  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,312
    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.
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  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 9,237
    edited 20 July
    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.

    He seemed pretty reliable for the races I saw him in for Ineos, there's a strong argument to be had that without him they wouldn't have bagged the Vuelta Giro last year.

    Agree though he can blow hot and cold, but I guess his hot is maybe hotter than the likes of Castroviejo (Though he was very impressive in both the Giro and the Tour I'll grant you) when he is at his absolute peak, but that Castroviejo can be more consistent for longer periods.
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 16,701
    was the Giro last year, but entirely agree that he was pretty key to that win.

    This year his TT form hasn't been as good last year, and not improving towards the Tour, so he probably just wasn't felt to be as strong yet.
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 9,237
    kingstongraham said:

    was the Giro last year, but entirely agree that he was pretty key to that win.

    This year his TT form hasn't been as good last year, and not improving towards the Tour, so he probably just wasn't felt to be as strong yet.

    So it was!
    Constantly getting them mixed up with the altered calendar last year :*
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  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,312
    daniel_b said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.

    He seemed pretty reliable for the races I saw him in for Ineos, there's a strong argument to be had that without him they wouldn't have bagged the Vuelta Giro last year.

    Agree though he can blow hot and cold, but I guess his hot is maybe hotter than the likes of Castroviejo (Though he was very impressive in both the Giro and the Tour I'll grant you) when he is at his absolute peak, but that Castroviejo can be more consistent for longer periods.
    His best is without question better than Castroviejo. His best is good enough to podium at the Tour if there is enough TT km's. You just can't bet the house you're going to be getting that best version.
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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 2,984
    He really isn't that good.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 28,254
    I put that Giro ride down to him being settled at Ineos so was surprised when talk started about him moving. It felt a good match, that Giro version of Dennis is too good to let go and being on a team where you can be allowed to pick up a presumably good salary in that sort of support role would seem ideal for Dennis. He cost me PTP points this season though, he has been like a different rider.
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