Rohan Dennis = 2020 TdF winner?

zest28
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Looks like TdF will be an e-race which plays into the strength of TT specialists like Rohan Dennis. He can go solo and people will not catch him.

Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.




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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,246
    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.
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  • ddraver
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    edited June 2020
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  • 50x11
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    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
  • gweeds
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    Christ, go and post this bullshit somewhere else.
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  • rick_chasey
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    MvdP not a road cyclist?!
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  • pblakeney
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    rick_chasey said:

    MvdP not a road cyclist?!

    Look who the OP is and ignore unless you want a chuckle.
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  • ddraver
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    Ah sh1t it's that dude....

    I didnt look, sorry
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  • skeetam
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    RichN95. said:

    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.

    :D:D:D Both would get their legs ripped off in a top level Zwift race by old blokes in garages
  • bobmcstuff
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    50x11 said:

    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
    Look at his other posts... It is trolling...
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,929
    RichN95. said:

    Neither of those. There are some middle aged men on Zwift putting out 8 w/kg on a regular basis.

    Weight doping is actually good for online cycling. Well known fact.
  • m.r.m.
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    Do those eventually caught keep their scale in their fridge as a reminder to never do it again?
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  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    bobmcstuff said:

    50x11 said:

    zest28 said:



    Matieu van der Poel could also be quite interesting and might suprise a few people despite not being a road cyclist. He is specialized in short high-intensity races as a cyclocross rider, so he should have an advantage also over most riders.

    Is this trolling? He won 11 road races including 3 stages and GC of the TOB, DDV, Brabantse Pijl, and Amstel Gold. for reference Peter Sagan won 4 in the same season.

    Was it not also you calling him over rated because a triathlete beat him on Zwift?

    MVP specialises in winning bike races in what ever discipline he rides.
    Look at his other posts... It is trolling...
    Yeah thought it was him, they should just close his account offers so little to this forum.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,418
    I don't know, some of the other threads have been OK. Least it means there are new threads!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,711
    Well, it might be good for some news on the real Tour.



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  • dish_dash
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    blazing_saddles said:

    Well, it might be good for some news on the real Tour.



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  • daniel_b
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    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?
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  • rick_chasey
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    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    _
  • daniel_b
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    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    That was the last rumour, just wondered if there was anything more concrete - when do they tend to announce all these things, after the tour, or right at the end of the season?
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  • phreak
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    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    So he really might be a Tour contender next year.
  • kingstongraham
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    How's his sprinting?
  • daniel_b
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    edited July 2021
    phreak said:

    rick_chasey said:

    daniel_b said:

    Any more news on where Dennis will be next year?

    Jumbo wasn't it?
    So he really might be a Tour contender next year.
    Pretty sure he said he didn't want the pressure, and wanted to be a, highly talented, domestique instead.
    kingstongraham said:

    How's his sprinting?

    for ~50 minutes on the tri bars, pretty good I hear :D
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  • m.r.m.
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    UAE could use him if he isn't too expensive. Pogacar has been dominating with half a team pretty much.
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  • DeVlaeminck
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    Part of his problem may be his reputation as a bit awkward.
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  • m.r.m.
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    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.
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  • daniel_b
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    edited July 2021
    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.

    He seemed pretty reliable for the races I saw him in for Ineos, there's a strong argument to be had that without him they wouldn't have bagged the Vuelta Giro last year.

    Agree though he can blow hot and cold, but I guess his hot is maybe hotter than the likes of Castroviejo (Though he was very impressive in both the Giro and the Tour I'll grant you) when he is at his absolute peak, but that Castroviejo can be more consistent for longer periods.
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  • kingstongraham
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    was the Giro last year, but entirely agree that he was pretty key to that win.

    This year his TT form hasn't been as good last year, and not improving towards the Tour, so he probably just wasn't felt to be as strong yet.
  • daniel_b
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    kingstongraham said:

    was the Giro last year, but entirely agree that he was pretty key to that win.

    This year his TT form hasn't been as good last year, and not improving towards the Tour, so he probably just wasn't felt to be as strong yet.

    So it was!
    Constantly getting them mixed up with the altered calendar last year :*
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  • m.r.m.
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    daniel_b said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah and he genuinely doesn't seem reliable. You could get the greatest domestique in the world or a guy who no shows on everything important and everything in between. You get much more stable returns with Castroviejo, Kwiatkowski, Declercq, Oss, Caruso etc.

    He seemed pretty reliable for the races I saw him in for Ineos, there's a strong argument to be had that without him they wouldn't have bagged the Vuelta Giro last year.

    Agree though he can blow hot and cold, but I guess his hot is maybe hotter than the likes of Castroviejo (Though he was very impressive in both the Giro and the Tour I'll grant you) when he is at his absolute peak, but that Castroviejo can be more consistent for longer periods.
    His best is without question better than Castroviejo. His best is good enough to podium at the Tour if there is enough TT km's. You just can't bet the house you're going to be getting that best version.
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  • gsk82
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    He really isn't that good.
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  • Pross
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    I put that Giro ride down to him being settled at Ineos so was surprised when talk started about him moving. It felt a good match, that Giro version of Dennis is too good to let go and being on a team where you can be allowed to pick up a presumably good salary in that sort of support role would seem ideal for Dennis. He cost me PTP points this season though, he has been like a different rider.

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