The big Coronavirus thread

rick_chasey

Stevo_666 said:

Stevo_666 said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

It may be hard for some of you to believe, but possibly us Brits have been a bit more sensible about things like distancing than our continental counterparts?

You're a bit of a moron if you think people are broadly different between countries.

It's just a function of all the things you lot moan about that you can't compare between nations, weather, density, cultural practices, demographics etc, and then the gov't response.

British exceptionalism is exclusively for tw@ts, and I will die on that hill.

Interesting that you say that when there are posters on here saying that Sweden's approach wouldn't work in the UK because (to paraphrase) we're a bit thick over here.

When have i said that?

I'm not say it was you, I'm paraphrasing several regular posters.

Right, well the several regular posters aren't saying British exceptionalism is for cUnts, I am.

Well you've since added to your post which confuses things somewhat, but your original post was in response to Stevo saying that the British might be better at social distancing than some on the continent and you said "You're a bit of a moron if you think people are broadly different between countries" and hence my reply, when actually several regular contributors to the topic have made exactly that distinction in staying why Swedens approach wouldn't work in the UK.

Let's watch him wriggle out of that one...

Any thoughts on your faulty logic Rick?

Already replied long before you started chiming in.

rick_chasey

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

mully79

I'm getting more and more cynical the more they manipulate the figures and graphs.

In my eyes hospital admissions are possibly the most useful measure of how serious the current situation is and we're at about 200 per day across the whole country. Todays graph runs only through last few weeks to show rise in admiasions has doubled !

At its worst there were 2500 admissions per day and nearly all of them were in London and across only a few hospitals.

The daily infection graph conveniently runs from the start of the pandemic so it looks like its nearly as bad as the start.

TheBigBean

Reposting this with graph with hospital admissions.




https://i.redd.it/8pk5ercp5xn51.png

surrey_commuter

How come 200 deaths per day in November is not seen as success

tailwindhome

kingstongraham said:

The health secretary gave a throwaway answer on Julia Hartley Brewer's show that she leapt on as evidence

This her?

tailwindhome

surrey_commuter said:

How come 200 deaths per day in November is not seen as success

Coopster says it's just not enough.
His plan requires 2000

coopster_the_1st

"doom-mongering scientific advisers who specialise in causing panic and little else"

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1308005483672985600

kingstongraham

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20617125/#Comment_20617125

rick_chasey

rick_chasey in March 2020 said:

People losing their sh!t over BoJo listening to experts to the letter isn’t how I imagined 2020 turning out.

Ha

Jezyboy

I'd be all up for a serious conversation about the use of fear by politicians, but I fear it would require too much introspection from all sides.

john80

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

pangolin

john80 said:

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

Why is anyone liking this sh1te.

nickice

john80 said:

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

Or he could tell if he delivered a fist to the guy's face.

pangolin

"I'm in a bad mood because someone had a go at me for speaking dutch"

"I don't believe you, anyway what did they do make fun of your clogs"

F*ck off.

Ben6899

I must say, it's massively disappointing to read such responses to a forum member telling us they were verbally abused because of their nationality.

I mean, f***ing hell, for all our differences I gave everyone - except Coopster, the bot - the benefit of the doubt of being better than this.

nickice

Non-scientist calls herself a scientist and tells us not to listen to 'pseudo-scientists'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/21/local-lockdowns-begin-no-normal-advice-live-with-covid

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

Stevo_666 said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

shortfall said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

It may be hard for some of you to believe, but possibly us Brits have been a bit more sensible about things like distancing than our continental counterparts?

You're a bit of a moron if you think people are broadly different between countries.

It's just a function of all the things you lot moan about that you can't compare between nations, weather, density, cultural practices, demographics etc, and then the gov't response.

British exceptionalism is exclusively for tw@ts, and I will die on that hill.

Interesting that you say that when there are posters on here saying that Sweden's approach wouldn't work in the UK because (to paraphrase) we're a bit thick over here.

When have i said that?

I'm not say it was you, I'm paraphrasing several regular posters.

Right, well the several regular posters aren't saying British exceptionalism is for cUnts, I am.

Well you've since added to your post which confuses things somewhat, but your original post was in response to Stevo saying that the British might be better at social distancing than some on the continent and you said "You're a bit of a moron if you think people are broadly different between countries" and hence my reply, when actually several regular contributors to the topic have made exactly that distinction in staying why Swedens approach wouldn't work in the UK.

Let's watch him wriggle out of that one...

Any thoughts on your faulty logic Rick?

Already replied long before you started chiming in.

Can you quote the post where you addressed Shortfall's specific point?

rick_chasey

nickice said:

Non-scientist calls herself a scientist and tells us not to listen to 'pseudo-scientists'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/21/local-lockdowns-begin-no-normal-advice-live-with-covid

Usual guidelines on opinion pieces apply, no? Just because it's a helpful strawman for whatever you are arguing about, doesn't mean it's actually helpful.

rick_chasey

So I missed the press conference - did they just say cases were going up or did they say what was going to happen as a result?

pangolin

rick_chasey said:

So I missed the press conference - did they just say cases were going up or did they say what was going to happen as a result?

No it was left pretty vague what happens next.

coopster_the_1st

pangolin said:

john80 said:

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

Why is anyone liking this sh1te.

Because some of us have seen Rick will stoop to any level to try to prove he and his opinions are superior.

The boy who cried wolf comes to mind

Remember how gullible you were to hand over money to an anti-Jewish organisation?

bompington

nickice said:

Non-scientist calls herself a scientist and tells us not to listen to 'pseudo-scientists'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/21/local-lockdowns-begin-no-normal-advice-live-with-covid

Of course, because internet forum guy is always better qualified than a professor of Global Public Health at a Russell Group uni...


... particularly, better qualified than a female professor of course

rick_chasey

pangolin said:

rick_chasey said:

So I missed the press conference - did they just say cases were going up or did they say what was going to happen as a result?

No it was left pretty vague what happens next.

Gottit. Which minister was put up to fend off "annoying" questions?

Jezyboy

rick_chasey said:

nickice said:

Non-scientist calls herself a scientist and tells us not to listen to 'pseudo-scientists'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/21/local-lockdowns-begin-no-normal-advice-live-with-covid

Usual guidelines on opinion pieces apply, no? Just because it's a helpful strawman for whatever you are arguing about, doesn't mean it's actually helpful.

She has a bachelors degree in biology....

pangolin

rick_chasey said:

pangolin said:

rick_chasey said:

So I missed the press conference - did they just say cases were going up or did they say what was going to happen as a result?

No it was left pretty vague what happens next.

Gottit. Which minister was put up to fend off "annoying" questions?

There was no Q&A, just a slide show from Chris and Patrick. Odd.

Pross

pangolin said:

john80 said:

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

Why is anyone liking this sh1te.

I can't tell on my phone who it was but I suspect I can narrow it down to one of three.

pangolin

Pross said:

pangolin said:

john80 said:

rick_chasey said:

john80 said:

ugo.santalucia said:

john80 said:

Are you black Rick as if not what you experienced as xenophobia.

Is it a lesser offence?

It certainly is if it never happened. Maybe he called him orange or something and he thought he was calling him Trump hence the reaction.

So not only do I need to get sh!t from people when on the phone in another language, I then get told I'm lying about it when I bring it up?

Got it.

Glad to see you side stepped your ethnicity query so that we will never know if you understand the difference between racism and xenophobia. Have you reported this hate crime to the police. Maybe you can enlighten us on the deeply offensive language used. I am not up on Dutch xenophobia but did clogs get brought into it.

Why is anyone liking this sh1te.

I can't tell on my phone who it was but I suspect I can narrow it down to one of three.

Nick, followed swiftly by Coop once he realised it would fit his primary directive of annoying people.

Pross

Back into a local 'lockdown' in these parts but the exemptions are so wide I don't know why they're bothering.

pangolin

At a high level they read quite strict in Wales, not being allowed to enter or leave lockdown areas for example. But I imagine that is riddled with exceptions like travel for work, school etc?