Who is the (Men's) Rider of the Decade?
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46%. But the biggest race in the world and its warm up act are in France.rick_chasey said:
I suspect a decent majority of Froome wins have been in France too, though happy to be proven wrong.
Nibali has started the Giro as often as he has started the Tour - typical for an Italian stage racer but virtually unheard of for a non-Italian. In the past decade he has ridden Tirreno nine times (won twice). The other six WT week long races he has done six times between them (best finish 5th). He's like one of those boxers who builds up a long unbeaten record and a version of the World Championship by rarely leaving his shores and avoiding the other title holders.
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rick_chasey said:
Apart from, y’know, winning the two biggest races outside of Italy...
Against Peraud, Mosquera and Velits. They say you can beat in front of you, and Nibali's good at picking what's in front of him.
2014 would have been interesting. He was on top form and Contador & Froome's tussles in the Dauphine & Vuelta showed what we missed out on. Instead (to continue the boxing comparison) we got Nibali beating up an ageing journeyman with a losing record.
Don't get me too wrong here though. I think there are five current riders (male) I think would be automatic inclusions in a Cycling Hall of Fame and Nibali's one of them.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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I'll guess you're looking at:RichN95. said:Don't get me too wrong here though. I think there are five current riders (male) I think would be automatic inclusions in a Cycling Hall of Fame and Nibali's one of them.
Froome
Nibali
Sagan
Gilbert
CavendishIt's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Valverde?salsiccia1 said:
I'll guess you're looking at:RichN95. said:Don't get me too wrong here though. I think there are five current riders (male) I think would be automatic inclusions in a Cycling Hall of Fame and Nibali's one of them.
Froome
Nibali
Sagan
Gilbert
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I probably would include him, I was having a punt on RichN95's listmrb123 said:
Valverde?salsiccia1 said:
I'll guess you're looking at:RichN95. said:Don't get me too wrong here though. I think there are five current riders (male) I think would be automatic inclusions in a Cycling Hall of Fame and Nibali's one of them.
Froome
Nibali
Sagan
Gilbert
CavendishIt's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
salsiccia1 said:
I probably would include him, I was having a punt on RichN95's listmrb123 said:
Valverde?salsiccia1 said:
I'll guess you're looking at:RichN95. said:Don't get me too wrong here though. I think there are five current riders (male) I think would be automatic inclusions in a Cycling Hall of Fame and Nibali's one of them.
Froome
Nibali
Sagan
Gilbert
Cavendish
Very astute by both of you. I originally wrote six, but then decided Valverde's history would stop automatic inclusionTwitter: @RichN950 -
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Current ridersrick_chasey said:Cancellara too, surely.
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Froome.
All the reasons no ta Doc mentioned.
Nibali couldn’t beat Contador at his best and Contador couldn’t beat Froome at his best.
We may not like certain aspects of GTs compared to one dayers, but I think we forget that they were created (commercial interests aside - in sporting terms only) and have evolved as the ultimate test to ascertain the best cyclist in 3 weeks of one day races.
In form, Froome is (was?) the best climber in the world and TTs with the best. While his record speaks for itself, he has addressed all the areas of his craft that were deemed lacking (downhilling, positioning in bunch, bike handling, tactical astuteness, etc) to become a complete rider. Best of all - or worst, if you’re a Froome hater - is that his best rides are now some of the most panachey in the last 50 years.3 -
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2nd step is definitely Sagan.rick_chasey said:I think the debate for the podium is more interesting
3 rainbow stripes, 2 monuments plus 3 2nds and 10 more top finishes, 7 green jerseys, 12 TdF stages and a bunch of minor classics. 113 wins at WT/HC/1Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
See I disagree - I wouldn’t even have him on the podium.
Nibali has more monuments and what he’s missing in WCs he more than makes up in GTs.0 -
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3 rainbow stripes -in a row- puts him in joint 4th place of all time, alongside Merckx.
7 Green jerseys is out all by himself, one ahead of Zabel and three ahead of Kelly.
And while Nibali has 3 monuments to Sagan's 2, Sagan has won both the ones anyone cares about ;-)Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
