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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Stevo_666 said:

    People who pay for the telegraph.

    Does this stuff not put you off? What goes through your head when you scroll past this headline?

    Pross is right, its a book review :)

    People who don't read things properly before trying to do a bit of cheap tory bashing and stereotyping intrigues me ;)
    They only review books which will be of interest to their readers. Their online analytics will make this a data lead exercise rather than assumption.

    If somebody could be bothered maybe they could post up some Guardian book reviews. I would be very surprised if you could not easily pull out some non mainstream whiny leftie claptrap
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    I just find it odd that you’d read something that argues from Hitler’s perspective and giving it 4 stars. Not least when the argument that is biggest mistake isn’t waging the most deadly war the world has ever seen on the premise of racial superiority and annihilating another race.

    But whatever.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,621

    I just find it odd that you’d read something that argues from Hitler’s perspective and giving it 4 stars. Not least when the argument that is biggest mistake isn’t waging the most deadly war the world has ever seen on the premise of racial superiority and annihilating another race.

    But whatever.

    I'm presuming you haven't read the book or the review. The first paragraph of the review (the only bit available) deals with this point.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    Obviously not as I don’t have a subbie.

    How about not having sub editors who write awful headlines?
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,621
    edited April 2020
    ...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,621
    I don't have a subscription either, but first paragraphs are free and say

    There are two main problems with writing a biography of Hitler. The first, as Volker Ullrich said in the first part of this two-volume work on one of the vilest men in history, is that around 128,000 books have already been written on him. The second is separating biography – the story of his life, the analysis of his personal characteristics – from the overfamiliar story of the Second World War. Ullrich’s first volume (published to acclaim in 2016) took the story up to Hitler’s 50th birthday in April 1939; this one tells the even-more-familiar story of the last six years of his life, when Hitler brought about more deaths and human misery than anyone in human history apart from Stalin and Mao, and destroyed his country....
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    edited April 2020
    So why write the headline?

    I am criticising the headline right? Is that not clear?
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,665

    So why write the headline?

    I am criticising the headline right? Is that not clear?

    It wasn't, no. One for the irony thread, maybe 😉
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,621
    edited April 2020

    So why write the headline?

    I am criticising the headline right? Is that not clear?

    You criticised that it got 4 stars. Did you think they were scoring the sub editor's headline writing skills?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    edited April 2020

    So why write the headline?

    I am criticising the headline right? Is that not clear?

    You criticised that it got 4 stars. Did you think they were scoring the sub editor's headline writing skills?
    If you’re writing the headline presumably you too have read the review.

    I wouldn’t go with “4 stars, Hitler’s biggest mistake” blah blah.

    Christ it is really very simple BB.

    Not everything needs to be contrarian. Sometimes it’s just wrong.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,621
    I'm just surprised that you manage to criticise an entire book, a review and a review score based entirely on the click bait heading not written by any of the authors involved. I don't think that is a contrarian view.

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    I just find it odd that you’d read something that argues from Hitler’s perspective and giving it 4 stars. Not least when the argument that is biggest mistake isn’t waging the most deadly war the world has ever seen on the premise of racial superiority and annihilating another race.

    But whatever.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    I posted the headline - is that not what the headline argued?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,551

    I just find it odd that you’d read something that argues from Hitler’s perspective and giving it 4 stars. Not least when the argument that is biggest mistake isn’t waging the most deadly war the world has ever seen on the premise of racial superiority and annihilating another race.

    But whatever.

    I'm presuming you haven't read the book or the review. The first paragraph of the review (the only bit available) deals with this point.
    I think he missed that it was a book review, got all indignant and is now trying to save face
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    How can anyone of you think that headline is acceptable?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,551
    Well it seems you're the only one remotely bothered by it so has it ever occurred to you that it might be you that has the issue?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,700
    I posed the question what goes through your mind when you see it. It seems not much, Pross.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,775
    What goes through my mind when I read something like that is, there’s a book to avoid. And I move on to something more interesting.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,509
    Another attempt to score right-on cred points backfires :)
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,551

    I posed the question what goes through your mind when you see it. It seems not much, Pross.

    That someone is picking a controversial subject to inspire debate and / or they're taking a backhander to boost sales. It's hardly a new tactic. For you it seems to mean all the readership, editors and writers are closet Nazis and they've picked a 'headline' that reflects their views.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Pross said:

    I posed the question what goes through your mind when you see it. It seems not much, Pross.

    That someone is picking a controversial subject to inspire debate and / or they're taking a backhander to boost sales. It's hardly a new tactic. For you it seems to mean all the readership, editors and writers are closet Nazis and they've picked a 'headline' that reflects their views.
    Maybe not closet nazis but certainly a sub section of society who are more inclined to think that he had some good ideas but got a bit carried away.

    I would be amazed if The Guardian did not review similar attention grabbing books about Marx, Lenin, Mao, Stalin and ignoring some of their more destructive tendencies
  • mr_goo
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    Over the years the contestants of the two red brick universities have gone from 'Reading', to 'Studying', to 'Doing' a subject.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,551
    How I've managed to get three quarters of the way through the day locked down in a fairly small house and have somehow not seen my one daughter all day (and yes, she is in the same house!)
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,688
    Michelle Obama has let herself go a bit...??
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,665
    orraloon said:

    Michelle Obama has let herself go a bit...??

    Whereas you are still fabulously high maintenance 'Loony.
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  • elbowloh
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    So, we're on our lockdown walk, me, the wife and a 12 month old strapped to me. We're walking along a grassy path across a heath with some slightly longer grass either side of the path. Someone on a mountain bike called from behind asking us to move out of the way so they could go past, which we did. However, my immediate thought was that it would have been far easier and quicker if they had gone round us on their "off-road" vehicle rather than expecting us to move out the way for them. Am I the one who's unreasonable?
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,688
    Path or bridleway? But d!cks gonna be d!cks anyway.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    I had never been intrigued by the origins of the hair cutting term “grade 4”

    So was intrigued to discover that for decades I had been telling the gent with the clippers how many eighths of an inch of hair I wanted left on my head
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,688
    30 minutes until the Elon Musk satellite train goes overhead...apparently..according to something I read on the internet... so must be true...
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,551

    I had never been intrigued by the origins of the hair cutting term “grade 4”

    So was intrigued to discover that for decades I had been telling the gent with the clippers how many eighths of an inch of hair I wanted left on my head

    Makes more sense, I'd previously been told it was millimetres but always felt a number 4 was longer than 4mm.