Seemingly trivial things that intrigue you

pinno

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

veronese68 said:

Because some people find aluminium hard to pronounce and spell, steel is easy. Titanium is fancy and they want you to know it.
Just a theory, I don't think I have ever referred to an ali bike as alloy.

I've only ever heard it to distinguish what was then a normal wheel material, steel, from a fancy lightweight "alloy" wheel only used by cyclists who advertise breakfast cereal.

I'm seeing it regularly on Facebook bike groups "should I go for a titanium, steel or alloy frame" or one I saw this morning where someone's bottle cage bolts had seized and one person's sage advice was "avoid alloy bolts".

Titanium bolts have decent tensile strength I hear.

***THREAD CROSSOVER ALERT*** ***THREADCROSSOVERALERT***

'Alloy' whatever, 'Mericanism innit.

rjsterry

pinno said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

veronese68 said:

Because some people find aluminium hard to pronounce and spell, steel is easy. Titanium is fancy and they want you to know it.
Just a theory, I don't think I have ever referred to an ali bike as alloy.

I've only ever heard it to distinguish what was then a normal wheel material, steel, from a fancy lightweight "alloy" wheel only used by cyclists who advertise breakfast cereal.

I'm seeing it regularly on Facebook bike groups "should I go for a titanium, steel or alloy frame" or one I saw this morning where someone's bottle cage bolts had seized and one person's sage advice was "avoid alloy bolts".

Titanium bolts have decent tensile strength I hear.

***THREAD CROSSOVER ALERT*** ***THREADCROSSOVERALERT***

'Alloy' whatever, 'Mericanism innit.

Surely you would only avoid aluminium bolts (who has ever seen these outside a greenhouse?) in a steel frame.

Pross

pinno said:

Pross said:

...I joined a few cycling groups recently for a bit of advice and that's where I saw these comments.

And that 'advice' is better than what you get on here?!

Gravel bike related including one local one that's good for route ideas. I'll probably leave the non-local ones though as they are a bit like a combination of Road General and Road Beginners on here "which bike" followed by recommendations of whatever the respondent rides "which tyre" people asking for the best mechanical disc brake option and being told to go for hydraulic. Usual shite.

pinno

rjsterry said:

pinno said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

veronese68 said:

Because some people find aluminium hard to pronounce and spell, steel is easy. Titanium is fancy and they want you to know it.
Just a theory, I don't think I have ever referred to an ali bike as alloy.

I've only ever heard it to distinguish what was then a normal wheel material, steel, from a fancy lightweight "alloy" wheel only used by cyclists who advertise breakfast cereal.

I'm seeing it regularly on Facebook bike groups "should I go for a titanium, steel or alloy frame" or one I saw this morning where someone's bottle cage bolts had seized and one person's sage advice was "avoid alloy bolts".

Titanium bolts have decent tensile strength I hear.

***THREAD CROSSOVER ALERT*** ***THREADCROSSOVERALERT***

'Alloy' whatever, 'Mericanism innit.

Surely you would only avoid aluminium bolts (who has ever seen these outside a greenhouse?) in a steel frame.

My C40 had 4 bottle cage mounts with... 4 sheered Alu bottle cage bolts inside them when I bought it very second hand.

Pross

The amount of drivers who seem unable to follow arrows the correct way around a car park. I'm sat in services and just watched 4 cars on the trot leave the wrong way (oddly the right way would have been far more direct too!).

TheBigBean

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

Pross

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

I do the same but usually still come back to find someone has parked next to me with barely enough room for me to open my door

rick_chasey

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Pross

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Cue lots of 'when I was a toddler my parents walked me miles up the mountain' stories.

That's what parent & child spaces are for surely?

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

surrey_commuter

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

I do the same but usually still come back to find someone has parked next to me with barely enough room for me to open my door

I can explain that, when i am hungover or still drunk I find it a lot easier to park when I have another car to line up with. If stoned chosing one out of two hundred empty spaces is virtually impossible so it is easier to park next to somebody else

briantrumpet

Pross said:

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

It cheered me up when some knob got himself in the local paper complaining getting stuck in an epic traffic jam, when he was wanting to drive three miles to the gym to do a spin class.

pblakeney

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Cue lots of 'when I was a toddler my parents walked me miles up the mountain' stories.

That's what parent & child spaces are for surely?

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

My favourite anecdote about this as when living in a tower block apartment with a health spa in the basement one girl would get the lift down and up to spend her time primarily on the stair master. Made me smile every time.

elbowloh

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Cue lots of 'when I was a toddler my parents walked me miles up the mountain' stories.

That's what parent & child spaces are for surely?

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

They people park in disabled spaces not out of laziness, but from being an utter cnut.

pinno

elbowloh said:

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Cue lots of 'when I was a toddler my parents walked me miles up the mountain' stories.

That's what parent & child spaces are for surely?

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

They people park in disabled spaces not out of laziness, but from being an utter cnut.

I've left notes on windscreens reminding them it's a parent and child or disabled space.
When the toots were small, it was a PITA if I couldn't get a P&C space and vexing of some chav/boy racer/lazy basket had occupied one

rick_chasey

I'd also add with my feeble cyclist arms if I have to carry anything to a car I would rather have it nearer the shop too.

rick_chasey

There are always far too many disabled spots (in that I've never seen them even remotely full up) and far too few child & parent spots. I have often thought about this and came to the conclusion that for disabled people it can be really quite problematic so best for them to always have a space.

Pross

rick_chasey said:

There are always far too many disabled spots (in that I've never seen them even remotely full up) and far too few child & parent spots. I have often thought about this and came to the conclusion that for disabled people it can be really quite problematic so best for them to always have a space.

Disabled parking allocation is covered in planning guidance. Parent and child parking is just something shops etc. provide to encourage people to use their store. I've never fully understood who it's intended for either - single parents with a toddler / baby, family with young children, the maximum age they intend a child to be - they're not enforceable in any way but if they were could me and the wife have parked there when my daughter was 15 (could my parents park there if I was in their car!)?

ballysmate

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

There are always far too many disabled spots (in that I've never seen them even remotely full up) and far too few child & parent spots. I have often thought about this and came to the conclusion that for disabled people it can be really quite problematic so best for them to always have a space.

Disabled parking allocation is covered in planning guidance. Parent and child parking is just something shops etc. provide to encourage people to use their store. I've never fully understood who it's intended for either - single parents with a toddler / baby, family with young children, the maximum age they intend a child to be - they're not enforceable in any way but if they were could me and the wife have parked there when my daughter was 15 (could my parents park there if I was in their car!)?

The self entitled?

Wheelspinner

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

I hardly ever drive, but when I do, I usually park in one of the completely empty places that are at most 50m away from the entrance to the service stations/shops. I like the easy parking, easy door opening etc. Everyone else seems to value saving that 50m walk. That intrigues me.

so the toddler doesn't have to walk as far

Cue lots of 'when I was a toddler my parents walked me miles up the mountain' stories.

That's what parent & child spaces are for surely?

The ultimate irony is people who do it at the gym, sometimes even using disabled spaces, then spend an hour on a treadmill

And this…

TheBigBean

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

There are always far too many disabled spots (in that I've never seen them even remotely full up) and far too few child & parent spots. I have often thought about this and came to the conclusion that for disabled people it can be really quite problematic so best for them to always have a space.

Disabled parking allocation is covered in planning guidance. Parent and child parking is just something shops etc. provide to encourage people to use their store. I've never fully understood who it's intended for either - single parents with a toddler / baby, family with young children, the maximum age they intend a child to be - they're not enforceable in any way but if they were could me and the wife have parked there when my daughter was 15 (could my parents park there if I was in their car!)?

I believe the purpose of them is for when kids are in car seats and it is helpful to be able to open the doors fully. They are also close to the entrance, so highly prized by everyone except me, and I have young kids.

rick_chasey

I am in hospital to get my wrist checked by the surgeon and I am absolutely the only patient here amongst maybe 15 who is under the pension age.

Obvious but it’s quite stark when you see it with your own eyes.

TheBigBean

Some people like to be seen in gyms more than they actually want to do any exercise. A friend of mine could never understand the point of women's only time as her sole purpose of being there was to watch muscular men.

Pross

TheBigBean said:

Some people like to be seen in gyms more than they actually want to do any exercise. A friend of mine could never understand the point of women's only time as her sole purpose of being there was to watch muscular men.

The hotel based ones are the worst, I was a member of one for a while and people would maybe do a very gentle swim or walk on the treadmill then sit in the sauna and / or jacuzzi before heading off to the bar for a few drinks and some high calorie food. This would be classed as 'going to the gym'. I was a regular at Pure Gym for a few years and that was mainly people who were serious about getting fit, no distractions like saunas, pools or hot tubs let alone a bar / cafe. There would still be some that would turn up and spend an hour walking on a treadmill chatting to their mate though, I always struggled to understand why someone would pay money to do that when it would be far more enjoyable doing it out in a park or the countryside.

surrey_commuter

rick_chasey said:

I am in hospital to get my wrist checked by the surgeon and I am absolutely the only patient here amongst maybe 15 who is under the pension age.

Obvious but it’s quite stark when you see it with your own eyes.

you are obsessed by division by age

In all seriousness last time I was at a hospital it felt like I had walked into Wetherspoons by mistake

shirley_basso

The answer to all of the gym related amusment is convenience.

Also - does depend on why are you are going - get get fit, or to look good.

Pross

rick_chasey said:

I am in hospital to get my wrist checked by the surgeon and I am absolutely the only patient here amongst maybe 15 who is under the pension age.

Obvious but it’s quite stark when you see it with your own eyes.

Not sure what point you are trying to make. Old people get ill more often or are more likely to have falls resulting in broken bones? That's hardly surprising.

First.Aspect

surrey_commuter said:

rick_chasey said:

I am in hospital to get my wrist checked by the surgeon and I am absolutely the only patient here amongst maybe 15 who is under the pension age.

Obvious but it’s quite stark when you see it with your own eyes.

you are obsessed by division by age

In all seriousness last time I was at a hospital it felt like I had walked into Wetherspoons by mistake

Last time I was in A&E after my stitches came loose, a family waiting there ordered Domino's.

briantrumpet

surrey_commuter said:

rick_chasey said:

I am in hospital to get my wrist checked by the surgeon and I am absolutely the only patient here amongst maybe 15 who is under the pension age.

Obvious but it’s quite stark when you see it with your own eyes.

you are obsessed by division by age

In all seriousness last time I was at a hospital it felt like I had walked into Wetherspoons by mistake

I think Rick needs to take up a pastime where most of the participants are in their teens or early 20s. Apart from working at McDonalds, I'm not sure what to suggest....

elbowloh

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

Some people like to be seen in gyms more than they actually want to do any exercise. A friend of mine could never understand the point of women's only time as her sole purpose of being there was to watch muscular men.

The hotel based ones are the worst, I was a member of one for a while and people would maybe do a very gentle swim or walk on the treadmill then sit in the sauna and / or jacuzzi before heading off to the bar for a few drinks and some high calorie food. This would be classed as 'going to the gym'. I was a regular at Pure Gym for a few years and that was mainly people who were serious about getting fit, no distractions like saunas, pools or hot tubs let alone a bar / cafe. There would still be some that would turn up and spend an hour walking on a treadmill chatting to their mate though, I always struggled to understand why someone would pay money to do that when it would be far more enjoyable doing it out in a park or the countryside.

This. I tried them (Pure Gym, as it was next to the office), but hated it. We also had Hampstead Heath behind the office, which just seemed preferable even in the rain.

I tried spin class also, what a load of shite that was, making you cycle in weird positions that put horrible stresses on your knees and doing funny things with your arms.

briantrumpet

elbowloh said:

weird positions that put horrible stresses on your knees and doing funny things with your arms.

Isn't that what dancing is for?