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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674


    There's something quite high-school-clique-twee about the way the little pro-brexit / pro-covid team always like each other's posts :)
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    bompington said:



    There's something quite high-school-clique-twee about the way the little pro-brexit / pro-covid team always like each other's posts :)

    Would you prefer it if I liked the posts I didn't like? For what it's worth I've even liked some of Ricks posts in the past.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    kingstongraham said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    I don’t get it
    Who is he?
    Why has he linked these three old stories?
    Why is it interesting that he has posted this?
    Just a bit of a laugh at the U.K. attempts to go solo re its satellite programme
    And he has only just found this out?

    I still don’t get it. It is hardly like he has cunningly placed three unrelated stories next to each other for unexpected comedic effect

    Are they unrelated or old?

    19 sept 2020:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/09/19/uk-reset-sat-nav-plans-scrapping-work-5bn-galileo-rival/


    26 Jun 2020:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/25/boris-johnson-backs-buying-stake-satellite-rival-eus-galileo/

    ahhhh - meant "related" as in it hardly makes him Sherlock Holmes to imply a link between them.

    FWIW ditching May's idea should be on the list of positive things Boris has done for the UK
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681

    "FWIW ditching May's idea should be on the list of positive things Boris has done for the UK"

    A short list. But at least there is one entry. 👍
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681
    So what was the Supreme Leader FatBo doing in Italy over last weekend? Not as if there are any important issues to be concentrating on at home are there? Or was he checking in with his paymaster stringpuller?

    https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2020/09/20/news/the_mystery_of_boris_johnson_s_trip_to_perugia_-267989244/

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,239
    orraloon said:

    So what was the Supreme Leader FatBo doing in Italy over last weekend? Not as if there are any important issues to be concentrating on at home are there? Or was he checking in with his paymaster stringpuller?

    https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2020/09/20/news/the_mystery_of_boris_johnson_s_trip_to_perugia_-267989244/

    I thought there were people who'd seen him in Westminster abbey.

    Very weird story.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    It is highly unlikely that the PM could go abroad without anyone noticing even on a private jet. So until I see some proof of this and no responses then it sounds like the claim is false.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    john80 said:

    It is highly unlikely that the PM could go abroad without anyone noticing even on a private jet. So until I see some proof of this and no responses then it sounds like the claim is false.

    Rabid leftie gets sucked in by fake news. It's not the first time, but that they are so easily hoodwinked should be a concern because of the risk they pose to society
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,492
    john80 said:

    It is highly unlikely that the PM could go abroad without anyone noticing even on a private jet. So until I see some proof of this and no responses then it sounds like the claim is false.

    It would have been all over the MSM etc if he had. I notice that Looney totally ignores the fairly concise Downing Street reply in the linked article which simply says "This claim is wrong."

    I'm calling leftiebollox on this one in the absence of any evidence.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    edited September 2020
    Surprised his lament that his £150k salary was impoverishing him didn't get traction here, rather than a did-he-didn't-he trip.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Stevo_666 said:

    john80 said:

    It is highly unlikely that the PM could go abroad without anyone noticing even on a private jet. So until I see some proof of this and no responses then it sounds like the claim is false.

    It would have been all over the MSM etc if he had. I notice that Looney totally ignores the fairly concise Downing Street reply in the linked article which simply says "This claim is wrong."

    I'm calling leftiebollox on this one in the absence of any evidence.
    quite a long article in the Times about it, seems the source is an regular official communication from the airport about famous arrivals, Boris came below Luis Suarez but above Tony Blair. I assumed the denial is an outright lie or the time was 30 mins out.

    Times also suggests this was when he had the failing Zoom call and he cancelled appts in London on Monday morning.

    Ironically you can track all these things on Flightradar

    I am going to vote for probably true - but so what as we will not have learned anything about our glorious leader that we did not already know.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    john80 said:

    It is highly unlikely that the PM could go abroad without anyone noticing even on a private jet. So until I see some proof of this and no responses then it sounds like the claim is false.

    It would have been all over the MSM etc if he had. I notice that Looney totally ignores the fairly concise Downing Street reply in the linked article which simply says "This claim is wrong."

    I'm calling leftiebollox on this one in the absence of any evidence.
    quite a long article in the Times about it, seems the source is an regular official communication from the airport about famous arrivals, Boris came below Luis Suarez but above Tony Blair. I assumed the denial is an outright lie or the time was 30 mins out.

    Times also suggests this was when he had the failing Zoom call and he cancelled appts in London on Monday morning.

    Ironically you can track all these things on Flightradar

    I am going to vote for probably true - but so what as we will not have learned anything about our glorious leader that we did not already know.
    So there was a private flight to and from RAF Northolt and Perugia on 13th Sept and back the next day, for those hunting for clues.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681
    FlightRadar! Fake news.

    Anyways. One to add to the (v short) list of positive things that BloJo has achieved for the UK during his time as PM.

    Renationalisation of the railways is underway. Though no doubt the bunch of incompetents will do it badly and at considerably more cost to public finances than necessary.

    Always happy to help out the fanbois who oddly seem to struggle with listing any positive, other than the inevitable "80 seat Commons majority".
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,533
    orraloon said:

    FlightRadar! Fake news.

    Anyways. One to add to the (v short) list of positive things that BloJo has achieved for the UK during his time as PM.

    Renationalisation of the railways is underway. Though no doubt the bunch of incompetents will do it badly and at considerably more cost to public finances than necessary.

    Always happy to help out the fanbois who oddly seem to struggle with listing any positive, other than the inevitable "80 seat Commons majority".

    Was bound to happen with this leftie socialist Government in charge.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    You would have thought now was a good time to resolve the structural issues that plauge UK railways, but alas.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Pross said:

    orraloon said:

    FlightRadar! Fake news.

    Anyways. One to add to the (v short) list of positive things that BloJo has achieved for the UK during his time as PM.

    Renationalisation of the railways is underway. Though no doubt the bunch of incompetents will do it badly and at considerably more cost to public finances than necessary.

    Always happy to help out the fanbois who oddly seem to struggle with listing any positive, other than the inevitable "80 seat Commons majority".

    Was bound to happen with this leftie socialist Government in charge.
    Problem with these Trots is that they either have no memory or just want to reverse what Maggie did. Railways may not be perfect but they are a damn site better than they were.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681
    Didn't FatBo big up steam engines in one of his fwaw fwaw expecto patronum rambles?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    So it's officially a nonsense story.

    Guy didn't know his PMs so said he saw a UK PM (Blair), his boss went "who, Johnson?" and he went "yeah, sure, why not".
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681
    "Yow int seen me roight." Per The Fast Show.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,654
    rick_chasey said:

    So it's officially a nonsense story.

    Guy didn't know his PMs so said he saw a UK PM (Blair), his boss went "who, Johnson?" and he went "yeah, sure, why not".

    The not nonsense bit, which has got lost in all the fuss about a supposed dash to Perrugia, is the Chernukhins being the Conservatives' biggest donor.
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681
    Wonder how much that airport worker got bunged, or being Italy and Russians, got 'told' to change his story? 🤔
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,239
    If people thought about it, it would be a very stupid lie to tell about being at Westminster Cathedral if you weren't.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,492
    orraloon said:

    Wonder how much that airport worker got bunged, or being Italy and Russians, got 'told' to change his story? 🤔

    I love the leftiebollox conspiracy stuff you come out with Loon. Keep it up ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So it's officially a nonsense story.

    Guy didn't know his PMs so said he saw a UK PM (Blair), his boss went "who, Johnson?" and he went "yeah, sure, why not".

    The not nonsense bit, which has got lost in all the fuss about a supposed dash to Perrugia, is the Chernukhins being the Conservatives' biggest donor.
    This isn't new information though, is it?

    We're quite far down the line of people not giving a sh!t who gives parties money.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,681

  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So it's officially a nonsense story.

    Guy didn't know his PMs so said he saw a UK PM (Blair), his boss went "who, Johnson?" and he went "yeah, sure, why not".

    The not nonsense bit, which has got lost in all the fuss about a supposed dash to Perrugia, is the Chernukhins being the Conservatives' biggest donor.
    This isn't new information though, is it?

    We're quite far down the line of people not giving a sh!t who gives parties money.
    the only thing that is shocking is how small the sums are. I think the biggest donor (Russian) has only given them £1.7m which is laughable compared to the billions Abramovich has spent on Chelsea and still found himself kicked out.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So it's officially a nonsense story.

    Guy didn't know his PMs so said he saw a UK PM (Blair), his boss went "who, Johnson?" and he went "yeah, sure, why not".

    The not nonsense bit, which has got lost in all the fuss about a supposed dash to Perrugia, is the Chernukhins being the Conservatives' biggest donor.
    This isn't new information though, is it?

    We're quite far down the line of people not giving a sh!t who gives parties money.
    the only thing that is shocking is how small the sums are. I think the biggest donor (Russian) has only given them £1.7m which is laughable compared to the billions Abramovich has spent on Chelsea and still found himself kicked out.
    Mmm suspect it's iceberg money...
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    Times reckons large parts of the Tory Party very unhappy with new restrictions. If they attack of the basis of bowlocks data from the testing shambles then he could be in trouble.

    Boris is an interesting case study for SteveO's negative leftie theory. Has he become more negative as he became more left wing or has he become more leftwing as he became more negative?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,680
    surrey_commuter said:

    Times reckons large parts of the Tory Party very unhappy with new restrictions. If they attack of the basis of bowlocks data from the testing shambles then he could be in trouble.

    Boris is an interesting case study for SteveO's negative leftie theory. Has he become more negative as he became more left wing or has he become more leftwing as he became more negative?

    Is it not more individualist vs collective perspective?

    Right wing is individualist - focus on individual freedoms, at the potential expense to the rest of society - willing to have more deaths in return for own freedom

    Left wing is more socially orientated - focus on the group as a whole, especially vulnerable, at the expense of individual freedoms - willing to have more restrictive individual life in return for fewer deaths

    It's all fairly obvious.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    rick_chasey said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Times reckons large parts of the Tory Party very unhappy with new restrictions. If they attack of the basis of bowlocks data from the testing shambles then he could be in trouble.

    Boris is an interesting case study for SteveO's negative leftie theory. Has he become more negative as he became more left wing or has he become more leftwing as he became more negative?

    Is it not more individualist vs collective perspective?

    Right wing is individualist - focus on individual freedoms, at the potential expense to the rest of society - willing to have more deaths in return for own freedom

    Left wing is more socially orientated - focus on the group as a whole, especially vulnerable, at the expense of individual freedoms - willing to have more restrictive individual life in return for fewer deaths

    It's all fairly obvious.
    not sure what your point is as you are just using different terms to describe free markets as opposed to state intervention.

    As I suggest (slightly tongue in cheek) if you live in a small state free market economy and you develop a more negative outlook on life then you are more likely to adopt policies that are traditionally seen as left wing. In this case a greater role of the state funded by taxation and borrowing.

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