Tacx Flux or Elite Direto
jameshulsk Posts: 22
edited January 2018 in Indoor training and turbo forum
I've decided it's time to get a smart turbo and I've narrowed it down to the two above. Does anyone have a view on whether one is significantly better than the other? Apologies if this is covered elsewhere! Thanks.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/10/ann ... tions.html
Now that the Direto is available at a fair bit less than RRP (around £600 if you hunt about and use discount codes and TCB) it seems a bit of a no brainer to me.
Works perfectly with trainerroad and zwift.
Best value for money smart trainer.
Just sign up to newsletters with stores that sell the direto. There may be some offers in the post xmas/ new year sales.
Alternatively, http://www.clevertraining.co.uk/elite-d ... ng-trainer
Use code DCR10BTF and you will get 10% off.
The elite is very new so perhaps it’s too early to tell but it seems very good. I’m just waiting for some stores to get them in stock and then ask my LBS to price match. It all depends on how generous people are next Monday!
I highly recommend the Kickr Snap and it's maybe worth pointing out a rarely mentioned benefit of the Snap vs even the best direct drive trainers: it is the quietest trainer out there. Certainly quieter than the Kickr and equal to a Neo, both of which I've used. I've read the Direto has an annoying whine.
Noise level wasn't an issue for me but it's a nice side benefit. With a vittoria trainer tyre you hear only the transmission and your fan!
I also like the over engineered build quality and the fact it's a well proven and recently improved unit.
9 hours of use and a few hundred miles and I had to return it to Tacx as it started making grinding noises. It was replaced with no issues and my new one seems okay for the moment. It's a lot more noisy than my previous one, so I think it's going to fail again at some point.
When it works, it's a brilliant piece of kit. It's quiet enough, the resistance changes very well in Zwift and it has a decent amount and it's nice and stable. If Tacx could sort the reliability issues, I would be recommending it 100%, but because they are very hit and miss. I'd recommend the Direto.
But it really isn't.
The snap is a good trainer (albeit with questionable power readings) but it's significantly louder than the others. Were you using it in the same room as the neo and kickr?
The direto isn't quiet but is a far nicer noise than the whine of the kickr 2.
The neo is pretty much silent and the flux isn't much louder in all honesty.
The Snap isn't even a comparison as its a wheel on trainer. Both the Flux and the Direto are wheel off direct drive trainers.
The Direto is excellent and gives some of the higher end direct drive trainers a run for their money. With a power accuracy claimed at 2.5%, it beats the Flux hands down and even more so when you read that testers estimate it to be more like 1% or better accuracy. Its a stable platform for out of the saddle sprints, but you do need a wheel block to raise the front up. Or use a thick book. Some testers are using it as their every day trainer over the top end Neo, Kickr and Drivo its that good.
It'll connect to Zwift, TrainerRoad, Sufferfest etc etc.
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It will be worth the wait as it's awesome.
Being pbk, if you want delivery before xmas it might be worth a phone call to speed them up though.
Yes, it seems that it was a firmware issue.
I don't mean to over-defend the Snap but in the same room as a Kickr the Snap was significantly less noisy than the whining Kickr. Shane Miller raves about this very benefit.
I realise that this thread is discussing direct drive types not wheel-on but as someone mentioned on this thread that they were considering a snap, I thought it was worth sharing.
I was about to press the button on a Flux in fact but the Snap was superior in a few ways, not least reliability.
That's fine but you claimed the snap was as quiet as the neo when it isn't. No trainer is.
The snap might be quieter than the kickr, although when I had both the snap was definitely louder.
Both are louder than the direto, flux and neo.
Post referendum, I knew prices were only going one way, so felt it was just too much of a risk to take, glad I did now.
If the Direto is as good as people say, then it seems like a good option over the Flux imho.
I very nearly bought a Drivo, could have had one of them for £750, as at the time Evans would pricematch Athleteshop - not anymore though.
Very happy with my Neo though, no issues so far, some 8 months or so in, solid bit of kit, and generally gets used for 7 hours a week.
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Thanks for the info re the snap. I get discounts via a scheme from work and I can get one for £425.
I need to double check tomorrow but I should be able to pick up a direto for £595.
I know they’re different types of trainers so need to decide on my budget although I’m leaning towards the direto.
Direct drive is much better than wheel on. No slippage, better power accuracy, no spare wheel or tyre spray up the wall and on the floor.
If this is the case, it'd be a very powerful endorsement of the Direto.
What specific reasons are they giving for favouring it over those other three?
NB If they already have one or more of the other trainers sat there, available to them, then we're removing price from the equation and looking solely at what it is, qualitatively, that's drawing them to the Direto in preference to the others.
Haven't actually used it yet as have been in middle of an extension and new bike room not finished yet. Hopefully will finally test it out on Sunday.
See the Shane Miller reviews. https://youtu.be/sKd_hbGHXng
https://gplama.blogspot.co.uk/p/indoor- ... plama.html
Means you can't go too far wrong.
Don't forget though, like DCR, Shane can't publicly favour a particular product over another.
What he clearly says in the videos is that the Direto has been his trainer of choice for x time. He also says his wife has clocked up 400kms using it.