Giro 2017: Stage 21: Monza – Milano 29.3 km ITT

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Flecha spreekt heel schattig Nederlands.

    Jaa moelijk is a hard word to say Juan-Antonio.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,194
    thegibdog wrote:
    ten Dam throwing a casual f*ck into the interview. :)

    The DS matches him with a s**t, potty mouths!
  • simon_e
    simon_e Posts: 1,706 
    Rider     Time      Diff     Avg.
Dumoulin  0:33:23            52.7 km/h
Nibali    0:34:17   + 0:54   51.3 km/h
Quintana  0:34:47   + 1:24   50.5 km/h
Pinot     0:34:50   + 1:27   50.5 km/h
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Great to see Van Emden so happy with the win :D
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    That was such a good GT. I really, really enjoyed it.
  • bluemoon17
    bluemoon17 Posts: 718
    edited May 2017
    Great end to a good few weeks of racing. Dumoulin thorougly deserved that, rode well throughout.

    As always in this mad sport, the question for him now is- what next? My guess is a super TT heavy TDF 2018 route, with Froome aiming for a 5th win against the young superstar Tom Dumoulin...
  • bluemoon17
    bluemoon17 Posts: 718
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  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    WTF with NQs pink trainers?
    Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    They found some podium women tall enough to kiss him.

    They would have had to seriously duck if Quintana had won.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    type:epyt wrote:
    WTF with NQs pink trainers?
    Maybe they should've sorted him a pink skinsuit rather than the trainers.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    type:epyt wrote:
    WTF with NQs pink trainers?

    Well spotted. How crass.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Good Dutchie, isn't going to waste the booze by spraying it everywhere.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Projected time gaps based on secs/KM to Dumoulin on the first TT


    Dumoulin -
    Jungels -41.9 -1.4
    Nibali -95.1 -3.2
    Mollema -102.6 -3.4
    Zakarin -104.1 -3.5
    Yates -119.1 -4.0
    Pinot -121.3 -4.1
    Quintana -129.5 -4.3
    Pozzovivo -140.0 -4.7
    Formolo -182.7 -6.1

    Actual

    Dumoulin -
    Jungels -39
    Nibali -54
    Mollema -91
    Zakarin -94
    Yates -133
    Pinot -87
    Quintana -84
    Pozzovivo -154
    Formolo -195



    Nibs was the most likely challenger over the 3 weeks but he needed a minute.

    Was it there somewhere?
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  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Nibs was the most likely challenger over the 3 weeks but he needed a minute.

    Was it there somewhere?
    Yesterday, pretty much everyone could have taken another minute on Dumoulin with half-sensible tactics. Nibali couldn’t have done much more on his own, however.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,253
    Quintana should have found a minute in those mountains - but sitting in the wheels which seems to be his modus operandi these days wont get him the win. We know he can climb but he chooses(?) not to go on the attack. Froome must have learned a great deal this Giro.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,248
    I think the stage to Piancavallo was a missed opportunity for Quintana and Nibali... they let Pinot go and didn't attack Dumoulin.

    I would also argue that early on in the race they didn't do much going up Mount Etna... another missed opportunity.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,681
    Outstanding fortnight of racing.


    Finally, we've being treated to a TTer vs climber race.

    Said not so long ago Dutch cycling was properly in the doldrums.

    Now 2 stage wins and the Giro.
    _
  • MozBiker
    MozBiker Posts: 77
    At 37 Tom did an excellent job. Brilliant job. Would be interesting to see a Domoulin vs Froome. Froome seems to be on less than best form. Could be an interesting show-down.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    MozBiker wrote:
    At 37 Tom did an excellent job. Brilliant job. Would be interesting to see a Domoulin vs Froome. Froome seems to be on less than best form. Could be an interesting show-down.

    He's 26.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    TailWindHome wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Nibs was the most likely challenger over the 3 weeks but he needed a minute.

    Was it there somewhere?

    Looking back Nibs lost it when he had his off day on the climb to Blockhaus. For the rest of the Giro he was on a par with Quintana in the mountains.

    Dumoulin definitely the strongest over the three weeks though. Presumably he'll be going for the Vuelta now?
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    MozBiker wrote:
    At 37 Tom did an excellent job. Brilliant job. Would be interesting to see a Domoulin vs Froome. Froome seems to be on less than best form. Could be an interesting show-down.

    Hard to compare. Froome is a far better climber than TD, and not a bad tester. But the Sky team is a lot stronger than Sunweb.
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  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    okgo wrote:
    MozBiker wrote:
    At 37 Tom did an excellent job. Brilliant job. Would be interesting to see a Domoulin vs Froome. Froome seems to be on less than best form. Could be an interesting show-down.

    Hard to compare. Froome is a far better climber than TD, and not a bad tester. But the Sky team is a lot stronger than Sunweb.

    Very true, however, he managed to win without a team here. Saying that Sky are not likely to make as much of a pigs ear of it as Movistar did at the Giro.
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    Just trying to think of any bad weather on this Giro. Was is completely rain free??
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  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    thegibdog wrote:
    Just trying to think of any bad weather on this Giro. Was is completely rain free??
    They mentioned this on commentary a few times. Can't remember a drop.
  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    Often with the Tour the course doesn't give the opportunity for a climber to do anything before the final climb, mainly due to long valley sections. However, this Giro wasn't like that. For whatever reason Movistar just seem to be too defensive. When Quintana does attack he is quickly looking round and slowing down, rather than just carrying on full gas and trying to crack his opponents. Either he wasn't feeling great in the mountians, or he doesn't have that ability to know when his opponents are at their limit.
  • e17blade
    e17blade Posts: 215
    That was the first GT I have watched right through with my son. We both loved it, and it was pretty cool watching and shouting at the TV together.

    I just had to explain to him that GT endings aren't usually that tense, and that TT's are almost never that entertaining.

    Great stuff.
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,853
    Amador 10th in today's TT at 1'02". Impressive performance after an entire GT up the road as a largely unused springboard. Might feel like he's going to waste...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,153
    FleshTuxedo wrote:
    Amador 10th in today's TT at 1'02". Impressive performance after an entire GT up the road as a largely unused springboard. Might feel like he's going to waste...
    He was fourth on GC two years ago, so if he feels that he will have done so for a while.
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  • davieb78
    davieb78 Posts: 97
    Quintana claiming convenient illness.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racin ... lia-333134
  • 47p2
    47p2 Posts: 329
    I'm thinking Quintana wasn't that bothered about winning the Giro and was only there as a training excercise for the TDF. He never pushed himself and never committed to any of the attacks he or others started. Maybe he's trying to lure Froome a false sense of how fit he really is. My guess is that he will be on top form for the TDF and will fight right to the end to try and win... Watch this space...

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