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Giro 2017: Stage 10: Foligno – Montefalco 39.8 km ITT *Spoilers*

blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 14,022
edited May 2017 in Pro race
STAGE 10: Foligno – Montefalco 39.8 km ITT

START TIME: TBD

After the start in Foligno, which will host the Giro for the 7th time, the route quickly leaves the old town centre and takes relatively wide and mainly straight roads for over 12 kilometres, until past Bevagna (time recording). The route then starts to climb at an average 4-5% gradient, and reaches Madonna delle Grazie, where the road becomes a false flat up. A fast-running and technical descent twists and turns all the way to San Marco, where the road flattens and straightens out. The route takes a U-turn in Bastardo (second time recording), then a false-flat uphill drag leads to Montefalco. The slopes are never steep, yet the climb is unrelenting. The road, narrowed at points, leads all the way to the walled city of Montefalco (unprecedented stage town). The final kilometres are slightly uphill. In the last kilometre, the route descends and passes through a gateway, and then goes up again, on a short, steep ramp, leading into the 200-m long, uphill home straight, on 6-m wide asphalt road.


Map:-
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Profile:-
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Last Kms:-
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The technical finish:-
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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 2,423
    What sort of time difference do people think we should expect between the top gc riders?
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  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,264
    I can see Dumoulin putting 2-3 mins into Quintana
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • salsiccia1 wrote:
    I can see Dumoulin putting 2-3 mins into Quintana

    In the interests of keeping this race remotely interesting, I hope that is the case. Thinking more like a minute maybe minute and a half myself
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,129
    Montefalco is worth a visit, a fairly typical hill top town of the region. The local wine is excellent, a DOCG wine (the highest ranking Italian wine denomination, grown using the sagrantino grape variety. Two wines are produced, a red, the Montefalco Sagrantino secco, and a sweet red dessert wine, the Montefalco Sagrantino passito. I think I've still got a bottle of the latter in storage, might dig that out later.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    salsiccia1 wrote:
    I can see Dumoulin putting 2-3 mins into Quintana
    Robert Miller thinks Quintana needs to keep his losses to 3sec per kilo, so 2minutes.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,084
    Rider start times: http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racin ... mes-330829

    Key riders:
    Victor Campenaerts (Bel) Team LottoNl-Jumbo 13:24
    Vasil Kiryienka (Blr) Team Sky 13:43
    Hugh Carthy (GBr) Cannondale-Drapac 14:51
    Mikel Landa (Esp) Team Sky 15:11
    Geraint Thomas (GBr) Team Sky 15:38
    Adam Yates (GBr) Orica-Scott 15:39
    Bob Jungels (Lux) Quick-Step Floors 15:51
    Steven Kruijswijk (Ned) Team LottoNl-Jumbo 15:57
    Andrey Amador (CRc) Movistar Team 16:00
    Davide Formolo (Ita) Cannondale-Drapac 16:03
    Ilnur Zakarin (Rus) Katusha-Alpecin 16:06
    Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) AG2R La Mondiale 16:09
    Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Bahrain-Merida 16:12
    Bauke Mollema (Ned) Trek-Segafredo 16:15
    Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Sunweb 16:18
    Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ 16:21
    Nairo Quintana (Col) Movistar Team 16:24
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,084
    Also the first rider (Matteo Pelucchi) is on course.
  • RonBRonB Posts: 3,984
    Stats seem to agree (from @daniellloyd1)

    8 pro TT's (not incl. prologues) between Dumoulin & Quintana since 2014. On average, Dumoulin is 2.87s/km faster. Interesting to see how Pinot gets on as well though.

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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 14,022
    According to Jonathan Edwards, if Geraint is going well, he might catch Adam Yates as they go off a minute apart.
    Trouble is Yates is ahead on the GC........ :oops:

    G says he's hurting a lot.
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 9,298
    Having now looked at the stage profiles, it appears there is a healthy amount of TTs and flat stages, so presumably a very good chance for Dumoulin overall.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    Funnily enough Quintana had a very poor TdF long TT when it was hilly, better when it was flatter. Just a bad day I guess but it hard to predict.
  • milton50milton50 Posts: 3,892
    You would certainly expect Dumoulin to gain more seconds/km in the pan flat TT on the final day.

    Interesting that Pinot beat Dumoulin in the hilly TT in Romandie last year. Can't remember if there was any reason why Dumoulin was below par that day.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,768 Lives Here
    Don't forget Pinot.

    I get the luxury of watching at home, inbetween rather frantic trips to the bathroom.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,768 Lives Here
    I would expect Dumolin to be slightly below last year, given he's lost a lot of weight.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,768 Lives Here
    It's decent interval training this but I need to keep my hydration up...
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,768 Lives Here
    Nasty crash by Brutt. Straight over the barrier.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,768 Lives Here
    Kiryekna bins it on the last corner. Was on for fastest time.
  • FocusZingFocusZing Posts: 4,416
    edited May 2017
    Really interested to see how G fairs.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 14,022
    Bad crash for Kiri, but still gets the lead.
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  • NervexProfNervexProf Posts: 4,202
    Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
  • milton50milton50 Posts: 3,892
    Apparently there's a tailwind for the first part and then a headwind for the finish. So pacing will be important.
  • pedro118118pedro118118 Posts: 1,101
    I would be delighted if Tom D puts 5 minutes into Nairo Q and then sits on him for the next 10 days.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 9,202
    I would be delighted if Tom D puts 5 minutes into Nairo Q and then sits on him for the next 10 days.

    The way the race went the other day, it would be fascinating. Quintana disappears off up the road and Dumoulin like a terminator just keeps coming back.
    and then the next thing you know
  • pedro118118pedro118118 Posts: 1,101
    I would be delighted if Tom D puts 5 minutes into Nairo Q and then sits on him for the next 10 days.

    The way the race went the other day, it would be fascinating. Quintana disappears off up the road and Dumoulin like a terminator just keeps coming back.

    It would indeed......I didn't like the way Quintana dismissed Dumoulin as a "specialist" when interviewed yesterday. To my mind, Dumoulin is a considerably more well-rounded/versatile rider across all the disciplines than Quintana, who is the very definition of a 'one trick pony'. Albeit a very good trick (climbing the last 5km of a Grand Tour mountain-top finish at a very rapid rate).
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 14,022
    Thomas now fastet at the first check point.
    Yates 3rd.
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 14,022
    Landa more than decent, given the bad leg.
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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,084
    Thomas now fastet at the first check point.
    Yates 3rd.

    Jungels goes faster!

    Good TT from Yates if he keeps it up.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,912
    Thomas fastest at checkpoint 2. 41s faster than Sanchez
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  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,264
    This looks like it suits the classic time-triallers more than first thought. I reckon Dumoulin will take at least 3 mins off Quintana.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 2,510
    Seems like there's some confusion over Geraint's second split time...
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