Why we dislike Cav
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bobmcstuff wrote:Pinno wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:I didn't like Cav when he was dominant, but I like him now that he is no longer dominant... but that is true for every cyclist you are not a fan of... I might even get to like Froome one day, just as I got to like Contador...
I must admit similar patterns in my own perceptions.
Is that because when the dominance ends, they seemingly exhibit human frailties and we somehow connect with that?
Could be cos they move to underdog status to an extent and everyone loves an underdog.
Is this a British thing?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Pinno wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Pinno wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:I didn't like Cav when he was dominant, but I like him now that he is no longer dominant... but that is true for every cyclist you are not a fan of... I might even get to like Froome one day, just as I got to like Contador...
I must admit similar patterns in my own perceptions.
Is that because when the dominance ends, they seemingly exhibit human frailties and we somehow connect with that?
Could be cos they move to underdog status to an extent and everyone loves an underdog.
Is this a British thing?
Maybe? I thought rooting for the underdog was a pretty common human reaction. David and Goliath and all that. Maybe it's just British people who do it.0 -
orraloon wrote:Pinno wrote:Is this a British thing?
Most of the dislike Cavendish people seem to me to have never Raced on a bike or athletics so,
Never mind the ass-hole point of view but look at the other end and the face to show the effort that is needed.
Then your judgement seems to be when a dickhead shoves a mike up his nose while the poor sod is still trying to recover from the efforts.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
he's got a lot of characteristics that lots of people like. he's a winner ( though that has diluted a bit in the recent past), he wears his heart on his sleeve, and he is someone that has achieved an awful lot. he seems dedicated to his sport and I think will become the guy with the most tour stages which in itself would be pretty miraculous.
I think he is absolutely not just great, but an all time great.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:Pinno wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Pinno wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:I didn't like Cav when he was dominant, but I like him now that he is no longer dominant... but that is true for every cyclist you are not a fan of... I might even get to like Froome one day, just as I got to like Contador...
I must admit similar patterns in my own perceptions.
Is that because when the dominance ends, they seemingly exhibit human frailties and we somehow connect with that?
Could be cos they move to underdog status to an extent and everyone loves an underdog.
Is this a British thing?
Maybe? I thought rooting for the underdog was a pretty common human reaction. David and Goliath and all that. Maybe it's just British people who do it.
Nope. I hugely respect him for what he's achieved, but sometimes the red mist descends and he hurts people. Whether it's intentional or not isn't the issue, he needs to show a bit more respect for others. It's the same as someone like Roy Keane, top player but a bit of a dick at times.0 -
The bigger issue here is that my deep loathing of Valverde seems to have transformed into a grudging respect
if anyone has a cure for this please let me know0 -
Difficult not to respect Valverde for what he's achieved. A definite candidate for best rider of his generation.0
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Joelsim wrote:Difficult not to respect Valverde for what he's achieved. A definite candidate for best rider of his generation.
Still the Operacion Puerto issue though.0 -
Crozza wrote:The bigger issue here is that my deep loathing of Valverde seems to have transformed into a grudging respect
if anyone has a cure for this please let me know
I too find myself conflicted on this.You're the light wiping out my batteries; You're the cream in my airport coffee's.0 -
All the top riders deserve respect including Mark Cavendish. They have earned it for being dedicated and for putting in hours of hard training to be able to compete with the best in the world. I didn't realise Cav had mental issues, but don't we all to some degree0
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Joelsim wrote:Difficult not to respect Valverde for what he's achieved. A definite candidate for best rider of his generation.You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:Joelsim wrote:Difficult not to respect Valverde for what he's achieved. A definite candidate for best rider of his generation.
Still the Operacion Puerto issue though.
If we assume that he has been clean ever since and probably scrutinised to the hilt, you have to hand it to him. 36 years old and world No.1 last year.
In any given race that he wins, I very much doubt that he was the strongest but he plays his strengths so well. My respect for him has gone up in the face of working for Quintana so hard and so selflessly in the Tour at the expense of perhaps a podium.
There is a part of me that has huge admiration for the Super Domestiques - From Duclos-Lassalle to Fagnini to Bontempi to Froome too.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
evil_breakfast wrote:Crozza wrote:The bigger issue here is that my deep loathing of Valverde seems to have transformed into a grudging respect
if anyone has a cure for this please let me know
I too find myself conflicted on this.0 -
Slim Boy Fat wrote:evil_breakfast wrote:Crozza wrote:The bigger issue here is that my deep loathing of Valverde seems to have transformed into a grudging respect
if anyone has a cure for this please let me know
I too find myself conflicted on this.
I'm out of here before I get infected then... Anyone but Valverde.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
deejay wrote:orraloon wrote:Pinno wrote:Is this a British thing?
Most of the dislike Cavendish people seem to me to have never Raced on a bike or athletics so,
Never mind the ass-hole point of view but look at the other end and the face to show the effort that is needed.
Then your judgement seems to be when a dickhead shoves a mike up his nose while the poor sod is still trying to recover from the efforts.
I'm not sure what most of this means, and I have no idea how Bartali got into the converstaion, BUT...
I agree: Bartali, absolute hero, proper racer, true champion.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
I'm riding his sportive on Sunday, should I take a print out of these pages?0
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Pinno wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Joelsim wrote:Difficult not to respect Valverde for what he's achieved. A definite candidate for best rider of his generation.
Still the Operacion Puerto issue though.
If we assume that he has been clean ever since and probably scrutinised to the hilt, you have to hand it to him. 36 years old and world No.1 last year.
In any given race that he wins, I very much doubt that he was the strongest but he plays his strengths so well. My respect for him has gone up in the face of working for Quintana so hard and so selflessly in the Tour at the expense of perhaps a podium.
There is a part of me that has huge admiration for the Super Domestiques - From Duclos-Lassalle to Fagnini to Bontempi to Froome too.
He's a good rider for sure but his way of winning isn't always the most exciting (compared to say Nibali or Contador...)0 -
Above The Cows wrote:Well, I admit to being one of those people who gets a little teary when something bad or good happens to people I like in sport, or something extraordinary happens. I cried when Yusra Mardini won her heat for example. Apparently according to some that makes me worthy of derision. Personally I think it makes me human.
I'm with you on this, I get very emotional isn't that the point? Love Cav, especially his impulsiveness and hot headedness. Reminds me of my boy.0 -
mm1 wrote:Above The Cows wrote:Well, I admit to being one of those people who gets a little teary when something bad or good happens to people I like in sport, or something extraordinary happens. I cried when Yusra Mardini won her heat for example. Apparently according to some that makes me worthy of derision. Personally I think it makes me human.
I'm with you on this, I get very emotional isn't that the point? Love Cav, especially his impulsiveness and hot headedness. Reminds me of my boy.
WATTS did top 5 angry sprints. Guess who appeared in 4 of them?0 -
Definitely Robbie Hunter then.0
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Mcewen?0
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Not Wilfred Nelisen? Sorry, you did say 'angry' not stupid.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Joelsim wrote:WATTS did top 5 angry sprints. Guess who appeared in 4 of them?
I can't find this video, and really want to see it, so may be missing some irony/sarcasm, but I'm expecting Bouhanni0 -
ducknumber1 wrote:Joelsim wrote:WATTS did top 5 angry sprints. Guess who appeared in 4 of them?
I can't find this video, and really want to see it, so may be missing some irony/sarcasm, but I'm expecting Bouhanni
Final clue.
He's partial to a page 3 girl.0