High tech that is finally useful!?
Herdwick
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Came across this today and want to share and comment looks really promissing or another gimmick?
http://enduro-mtb.com/en/news-sussmybike-perfekt-suspension-setup-for-everyone/
http://enduro-mtb.com/en/news-sussmybike-perfekt-suspension-setup-for-everyone/
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That looks like a good idea, but the deciding factor in its success will be the cost.
If it's available for, say, £25 then it will sell well. However, if it costs £££ then very few people will buy it.“Life has been unfaithful
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If it actually helps to adjust your suspension will sell good even if it's expensive, but can't argue what is expensive because we have seen outrageous prices on useless stuff because they are 'enduro' specific etc.
I hope someone will test it and give some feedback as there are a lot of riders outhere that own bikes beyond their limits and skill level but strugling to get a descend ride because their ability to do tune their suspension is limited and not fully understand the proscess“I am a humanist, which means, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without expectations of rewards or punishments after I am dead.”
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Would maybe help setting up suspension for different terrain? Use it on different rides, analyse how the shock is working and adjust to suit?? Maybe the precursor to computer controlled suspension?0
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Too late to be a pre-curser isn't it!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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Suspension set up involves too much personal preference for a computer to tell you how to set it up right.
I find the manual set up process of sessioning a bit of track and tweaking set up really useful to understand how it reacts when pushed hard.
Take the time to learn how to set it up and you will get a lot more out of it than a computer could give you. People are just too lazy to do things for themselves and expect it done for them.
You can't expect to get the most out of your bike when riding it if you don't really understand how it will react to various situationsTransition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
I meant active suspension adjustment via ECU control, bit like active damper control on car, that constantly adjusts the suspension to suit the terrain. As far as I know this system is ultimately just a data logger?0
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This is just a datalogger, but computer controlled suspension is already being sold right now, so as I said, this is too late to be a pre-cursor for something you can already buy!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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This is just a datalogger, but computer controlled suspension is already being sold right now, so as I said, this is too late to be a pre-cursor for something you can already buy!
Agree, and it may well be the future of high end mountain biking, Then once there is a computer, you may as well have ABS as well and throw in a computer controlled steering damper and auto transmission. Lights that come on on their own and electric seat adjustment and you cant fix anything with out plugging a lap top in
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This is just a datalogger, but computer controlled suspension is already being sold right now, so as I said, this is too late to be a pre-cursor for something you can already buy!
I know you've already said it, twice now, bloody forum nazis
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ABS won't ever work on mountain bikes, there are times when you want to be able to lock both wheels.
A datalogger is only as useful as your ability to interperate what that data means.
A much better alternative to this is the TF Tuned masterclass, a morning of theory and maintenance followed by riding with their technicians to help you get set up.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
just needs an over ride button thenABS won't ever work on mountain bikes, there are times when you want to be able to lock both wheels.
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Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!Stay positive people
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Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
Pro riders wouldn't use it. They know how to set up their suspension properly and run their suspension a lot different to normal riders, usually a lot stiffer.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Because you didn't seem to realise it was already on sale!This is just a datalogger, but computer controlled suspension is already being sold right now, so as I said, this is too late to be a pre-cursor for something you can already buy!
I know you've already said it, twice now, bloody forum nazisCurrently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
I don't use any of those things whilst riding a bicycle.
And I don't do Twitter.
How good is that?I don't do smileys.
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Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
I don't use any of those things whilst riding a bicycle.
And I don't do Twitter.
How good is that?
You mean you haven't got a device that tells you to with in 3',' which bit of canal path your currently cycling up. I'm not sure how you manage to ever find your way home 0 -
Call me old fashioned but I prefer an OS map to a GPS.
No chance of a flat battery plus it's easier to spot alternative routes and you can mark notes on the map.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
I don't use any of those things whilst riding a bicycle.
And I don't do Twitter.
How good is that?
You mean you haven't got a device that tells you to within 3',' which bit of canal path you're currently cycling up? I'm not sure how you ever manage to find your way home
If you are going to attempt insults, at least have the decency to get the spelling and grammar right. Or people might think you're an idiot.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
I don't use any of those things whilst riding a bicycle.
And I don't do Twitter.
How good is that?
You mean you haven't got a device that tells you to within 3',' which bit of canal path you're currently cycling up? I'm not sure how you ever manage to find your way home
If you are going to attempt insults, at least have the decency to get the spelling and grammar right. Or people might think you're an idiot.
I bet you checked your grammar carefully in that response. One mistake and you would have been ripped.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Awesome idea and it just adds to the scope of suspension setup. This tells me that people are taking the sport seriously and it can only be good for us all. Saying that I would probably never need one but I think most professionals would use it. Back in the day we never had HR monitors, cadance sensors, power meters or even GPS. Ithink this is all fantastic for the sport! I can even follow Rachael Atherton on Twitter - how good is that!
I don't use any of those things whilst riding a bicycle.
And I don't do Twitter.
How good is that?
You mean you haven't got a device that tells you to within 3',' which bit of canal path you're currently cycling up? I'm not sure how you ever manage to find your way home
If you are going to attempt insults, at least have the decency to get the spelling and grammar right. Or people might think you're an idiot.
???? wow I was agreeing with your low tech attitude to cycling, but hey if you want to find it insulting you rock on
Nb you should not be starting sentences with conjoining words, especially if you are a grammar Nazis. Personalty I don't care about such things but as you clearly do, take heed0 -
Wow, few uptight people! How can my love of technology get you offside, you must be using a computer to post right Why so touchy.. If you dont use any technology that is great. I will respect your decision. Just as you should respect my views on all the fantastic technology we have at our finger tips. I belive Bike Radar promotes plenty and brings it to the masses. Lifes good Stay positive people0
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Oh and I am posting from a smart phone. Hope this fact will not infuriate you! Haha - ok now that's being cheeky..Stay positive people0
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???? wow I was agreeing with your low tech attitude to cycling, but hey if you want to find it insulting you rock on
Nb you should not be starting sentences with conjoining words, especially if you are a grammar Nazis. Personalty I don't care about such things but as you clearly do, take heed
That is quite obvious.
I suppose you could blame cuts in education spending, but I suspect you read the Mail, in which case your case is hopeless.I don't do smileys.
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Oh and I am posting from a smart phone. Hope this fact will not infuriate you! Haha - ok now that's being cheeky..
Not at all. I discussed these smartphone gadgets with my butler whilst dictating this reply to my secretary, who will no doubt pass it on to a footman to take down to the telegraph office, whence it will likely be published on these very fora.
Danged clever bits of kit I believe.
Personally when riding in the wilds of the Surrey Hills I find it easier to employee some local guides, both for myself and to lead my porters to a scenic lunch spot, where they can prepare for my arrival.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
ABS won't ever work on mountain bikes, there are times when you want to be able to lock both wheels.
When would you want to lock both wheels? For my type of riding I would hate to lock the front. Just curious in what scenario would you want this?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19738598#p19738598]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:ABS won't ever work on mountain bikes, there are times when you want to be able to lock both wheels.
When would you want to lock both wheels? For my type of riding I would hate to lock the front. Just curious in what scenario would you want this?
Scrubbing speed in to steep switch backs with catch berms, especially in the wet when you can easily control a two wheel drift.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19738598#p19738598]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:ABS won't ever work on mountain bikes, there are times when you want to be able to lock both wheels.
When would you want to lock both wheels? For my type of riding I would hate to lock the front. Just curious in what scenario would you want this?
Scrubbing speed in to steep switch backs with catch berms, especially in the wet when you can easily control a two wheel drift.
That is above my riding level, but if you lock both wheels then you are loosing all traction.
Seems counter intuitive to me.
But I think I get what you are saying, it's easier to get the bike drifting and sliding rather than to lose speed?0 -
If its slippery you can lock the front OK, personally I don't as I'm not a riding god like the RM, rear certainly on slippery decents it can be useful to lock it to act as a stable drag, trying to hold it from locking can create an instability.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
