Headset removal problem

mac_man

Hi all

Trying to remove headset from a Carrera Fury. I believe they are semi integrated (see attached image). But I can't get the forks out after removing top cap, spacers etc.

Is this a lock ring in the photo? There was a dust cover over this BTW. I've tried tapping the steerer tube with a mallet but no movement at all. Do I have to get the ring off before the forks will slide out? And how?

The headset headset was feeling a bit grindy so I was trying to get it all apart to see if it could be serviced.

No markings anywhere that I can see, so no idea what make the headset is.

If not serviceable, what should I be looking for as a replacement?

Chunkers1980

You need to give it a whack on top with the forks not on the floor with something softer than metal to release the wedge

mac_man

Thanks. So is that ring stopping the steerer then? Just didn't want to give it an almighty whack when there might have been something else holding it in somewhere. Will get a piece of wood to place on top of the steerer and then give it a smack.

cooldad

Push up from the bottom first to loosen the compression ring.

mac_man

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19731568#p19731568]cooldad[/url] wrote:

Push up from the bottom first to loosen the compression ring.

Thanks.

What should I be looking for as a replacement? So many headsets....

Chunkers1980

What's wrong with it?

mac_man

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19731679#p19731679]Chunkers1980[/url] wrote:

What's wrong with it?

I can feel it grinding, so bearings shot I guess. Are they likely to be sealed bearing sets? Replaceable?

Chunkers1980

They are sealed in some form or another.

You mean cartridge.

If balls in a holder, just clean and grease. If cartridge id the bearing and get some new ones.

mac_man

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19731719#p19731719]Chunkers1980[/url] wrote:

They are sealed in some form or another.

You mean cartridge.

If balls in a holder, just clean and grease. If cartridge id the bearing and get some new ones.

Thanks... yes I meant cartridge. Hopefully I can get it all apart at some point.

Had another headset where the outer case on the cartridge was actually seized to the inside of the bottom cup. Very messy... the cartridge had disintegrated totally and completely ruined the headset.

Hopefully this one won't be so bad.

mac_man

Managed to get the fork off. Not cartridge bearings in the headset... so maybe a clean-up and re-grease will do the job.

The Rookie

My 2006 Kraken headset is still as smooth as silk (its in my commuter now), despite looking like it had been stored in a ditch (Fork stanchions rusted through) before I bought it, just worked some grease into the bearings and it's now been on my commuter since 2009.

.blitz

mac man wrote:

.. so maybe a clean-up and re-grease will do the job.

If it is shot have a look here https://www.canecreek.com/headset-fit-finder it should tell you what you need

mac_man

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19732093#p19732093].blitz[/url] wrote:

mac man wrote:

.. so maybe a clean-up and re-grease will do the job.

If it is shot have a look here https://www.canecreek.com/headset-fit-finder it should tell you what you need

Thanks for that...useful.

Tried refitting the bearings but still feels gritty. The insides feel ok, so I'll get a couple of caged bearings. Fitting those teeny bearings individually by hand is a royal PITA

The Rookie

Individual balls is superior to caged (which is only done to save cost).

Chunkers1980

Yes, but they are one hell of a lot easier to fit and look after. All things considered, caged is the way to go, and make sure they are the correct way round.

mac_man

Nuts...

The insides are not all ok it seems. New headset it is then.