BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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If businesses haven't prepared properly they were most likely Remainers and should blame the Frenchrjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Doubtful. Most remainers have been predicting this sh!tstorm.tailwindhome said:
If businesses haven't prepared properly they were most likely Remainers and should blame the Frenchrjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.
It's leavers who have been saying that it'll be all right on the night.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I made the avocado comment. I'm hardly an arch Brexiteer and it was tongue in cheek. My main point was that with all the other likely impacts I don't think imported fruit and veg is the biggest concern. That said, a bad harvest in the UK won't have helped the situation.pangolin said:
Well as someone pointed out the vast majority don't come from the EU, so stricter EU borders won't solve the tide of Avocados filling our overcrowded supermarkets. Easy target though.Stevo_666 said:
That might explain the disproportionate response to the article on herepangolin said:
Don't forget forcing those nasty millennial upstarts to have swede on their toast instead of avocado.briantrumpet said:surrey_commuter said:
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about themjohn80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Well, we've already started with the risk of fresh food shortages lasting only a few months...
Hold on, this sounds familiar...
Supermarkets and consumers might have to be less fussy about the shape of fruit and ve though which would be no bad thing0 -
Pross said:
I made the avocado comment. I'm hardly an arch Brexiteer and it was tongue in cheek. My main point was that with all the other likely impacts I don't think imported fruit and veg is the biggest concern. That said, a bad harvest in the UK won't have helped the situation.pangolin said:
Well as someone pointed out the vast majority don't come from the EU, so stricter EU borders won't solve the tide of Avocados filling our overcrowded supermarkets. Easy target though.Stevo_666 said:
That might explain the disproportionate response to the article on herepangolin said:
Don't forget forcing those nasty millennial upstarts to have swede on their toast instead of avocado.briantrumpet said:surrey_commuter said:
Why don’t you list the upsides and then we will try and have a calm debate about themjohn80 said:
There would be little point with you mate as you hold not value in any of the upsides potential upsides of Brexit.rick_chasey said:This apologising for things getting worse, wtf.
Why not strive for better?
Well, we've already started with the risk of fresh food shortages lasting only a few months...
Hold on, this sounds familiar...
Supermarkets and consumers might have to be less fussy about the shape of fruit and ve though which would be no bad thing
Maybe we'll learn to love wonky turnips, and will make Baldrick happy.0 -
LOL
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
What are we looking at?tailwindhome said:LOL
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I think that's one of those new nightingale lorry parks- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Amazing how easily these things get built when the Government wants. If that was a private sector development it would of been years in planning with objectors all over it.0
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Imagine what they could achieve if they used their willingness to ignore objections to build something useful instead.Pross said:Amazing how easily these things get built when the Government wants. If that was a private sector development it would of been years in planning with objectors all over it.
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We farm out post of our import/export activity to professional carriers and agents - such as P&O, DHL. Smaller companies tend to do the same, so this idea that they are somehow trying to muddle through this themselves and are totally unprepared is not the case. The professional carriers are on the whole very prepared based on the arrangements that our transport and logistics department have put in place with them. As you would expect - it is their area of expertise.rjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
New legislation passed to exempt them from the planning system.Pross said:Amazing how easily these things get built when the Government wants. If that was a private sector development it would of been years in planning with objectors all over it.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
If they give themselves a few more powers, perhaps they can get the trains to run on time too.rjsterry said:
New legislation passed to exempt them from the planning system.Pross said:Amazing how easily these things get built when the Government wants. If that was a private sector development it would of been years in planning with objectors all over it.
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In which case why are other experts who have given evidence to Parliament on this are saying that smaller businesses aren't prepared? The fact that they have actually built the lorry parks and ramped up advertising suggests that there may be something in this.Stevo_666 said:
We farm out post of our import/export activity to professional carriers and agents - such as P&O, DHL. Smaller companies tend to do the same, so this idea that they are somehow trying to muddle through this themselves and are totally unprepared is not the case. The professional carriers are on the whole very prepared based on the arrangements that our transport and logistics department have put in place with them. As you would expect - it is their area of expertise.rjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
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Nice little reminder of the problems of breaking international law0 -
Have read that Johnson will see how the US presidential election goes before deciding whether to go for a deal with the EU or not. Good to see this is all planned out.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
rjsterry said:
Have read that Johnson will see how the US presidential election goes before deciding whether to go for a deal with the EU or not. Good to see this is all planned out.
The timing's not good for Johnson, as it's going to take a couple of weeks for the US election results to be ratified (maybe longer if Trump swings the courts into disputing the results), yet he needs to make commitments on the Brexit front rather more quickly than that allows.0 -
That's throwing some shade on the super forecastersrjsterry said:Johnson will see how the US presidential election goes before deciding
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
As reported by the Guardian based the disgruntled Sir Ivan Roger's conversions with high level EU diplomats? Or a more robust source?rjsterry said:Have read that Johnson will see how the US presidential election goes before deciding whether to go for a deal with the EU or not. Good to see this is all planned out.
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I don't recall exactly, but possibly that's the source. Dithering to see which way the wind is blowing would hardly be out of character. There's so little evidence of a plan beyond what they think will fire up the hardcore Europhobes that I'm really not sure there is much to be salvaged at this stage anyway.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
That article in no way matches up to the headline.0
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You tell me. Most importers and exporters use specialist firms to do the paperwork and transport the kit rather than doing it themselves.rjsterry said:
In which case why are other experts who have given evidence to Parliament on this are saying that smaller businesses aren't prepared? The fact that they have actually built the lorry parks and ramped up advertising suggests that there may be something in this.Stevo_666 said:
We farm out post of our import/export activity to professional carriers and agents - such as P&O, DHL. Smaller companies tend to do the same, so this idea that they are somehow trying to muddle through this themselves and are totally unprepared is not the case. The professional carriers are on the whole very prepared based on the arrangements that our transport and logistics department have put in place with them. As you would expect - it is their area of expertise.rjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.
Building the lorry parks could well be a precaution, a bit like the nightingale hospitals."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
That bit of road on the right side, is it a brexit? 🤣🤣🤣tailwindhome said:LOL
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It's a bit different from repurposing an empty exhibition centre. If the exporters and importers already dealt with suppliers and customers then of course this will be more of the same, but there must be quite a few businesses that have only ever dealt with EU destinations.Stevo_666 said:
You tell me. Most importers and exporters use specialist firms to do the paperwork and transport the kit rather than doing it themselves.rjsterry said:
In which case why are other experts who have given evidence to Parliament on this are saying that smaller businesses aren't prepared? The fact that they have actually built the lorry parks and ramped up advertising suggests that there may be something in this.Stevo_666 said:
We farm out post of our import/export activity to professional carriers and agents - such as P&O, DHL. Smaller companies tend to do the same, so this idea that they are somehow trying to muddle through this themselves and are totally unprepared is not the case. The professional carriers are on the whole very prepared based on the arrangements that our transport and logistics department have put in place with them. As you would expect - it is their area of expertise.rjsterry said:
You work for a multinational widget manufacturer if I remember correctly. You might have more resources to throw at this than most. Everything I've read suggests that the small firms who make up most (I saw a figure of of 85%) of the logistics industry are not remotely ready and are too busy trying to stay afloat with the pandemic impact to make any attempt to address the coming changes. What reserves people had put aside for Brexit have been burnt on Covid survival.Stevo_666 said:
By businesses and customs authorities etc getting used to the new way of doing things. I'm sure logistics people can fill you in.rick_chasey said:How does it adjust?
And by the French not being difficult.
The pandemic had a pretty immediate and widespread effect on the availability of construction materials - many of which are manufactured outside the UK - so I think the disruption will be a bit more widespread than certain fruit and veg being a bit scarce for a couple of weeks.
Building the lorry parks could well be a precaution, a bit like the nightingale hospitals.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
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Post a comment saying it is about sovereignty and was never about economics. Obviously interspersed with, bed wetting, traitor, embarrassed, nappy and end with fvck off and live in Brusselsbriantrumpet said:
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surrey_commuter said:
Post a comment saying it is about sovereignty and was never about economics. Obviously interspersed with, bed wetting, traitor, embarrassed, nappy and end with fvck off and live in Brusselsbriantrumpet said:
Weird, after criticism of posting stuff from the leftie Guardian, post something by one of the chief writers from The Telegraph, and it gets no comment at all about whingeing, or any of the other things the 'losers' are accused of.
Unfortunately my late mum's subscription to The Telegraph seems to have run out (well, I got three months extra), and I can't find this piece on Pressreader. Maybe @Stevo_666 will be able to help us out to see the whinge.0 -
https://youtu.be/gxN1eRtbb80
