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Greg Henderson just accused Fabio Aru of doping on Twitter!

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  • r0bhr0bh Posts: 1,776
    ThomThom wrote:
    As posted ealier from the Secret Pro. It's talk of the peloton, not just him.

    He tried to delete it so he also doesn't get sued. Bad luck for him its screenshotted and retweeted everywhere.

    These guys really are pretty thick aren't they.

    Says the guy who routinely implies riders he doesn't like are "suspicious" with zero evidence
  • thomthomthomthom Posts: 3,574
    ThomThom wrote:

    This has got to be one of the weakest examples of 'evidence of doping' I have seen.

    Especially since it's not a piece about evidence of doping...
  • andy_wrxandy_wrx Posts: 3,396
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  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Shaking in his boots.

    Cyclingnews spoke to Henderson with the Lotto Soudal rider adding that, “It was just me jumping to conclusions and I can’t do that. It’s ridiculous. It does the sport no good and I’ll speak to his manager and apologise. The information came from sources and it got me angry at the time. It was an angry and unsubstantiated Tweet, that’s exactly what it was.”

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/aru-con ... f-cheating
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  • If Aru does get popped, does that leave Greg H in the clear, as regards the question of defamation?

    In one of the news articles I read this morning, an Astana team spokesman said that "as far as he was aware", Aru had not been served with notice of any biological passport anomalies. The fact that he didn't come out and say that Aru absolutely hadn't been served with that notice is, at the very least, interesting.

    Will Aru categorically deny any knowledge of a pending biological passport case against him? He can't if he has, in fact, received a notice of investigation, I would imagine.

    Can and will the Biological Passport Investigation people also reveal whether Aru is under investigation? (Probably not, I guess, especially if they are in the very early stages of launching an investigation against Aru)

    DD.
  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Aru came out and said he was completely smoked from the illness. So if he didn't have an illness and was out of racing due to the bio passport then he is outright lying.

    Interesting that when Kittel was oddly out due to a massive illness no one tried to call him out as a doper. I guess it is because he is German.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 25,186
    you re being weird again today...
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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,940
    New Zealand / Ozzie racism, courtesy of Flight of the Conchords

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    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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  • iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Back on topic : Aru had a lawyer on that case now and the internet is telling me that is proof of his guilt as Armstrong used lawyers.

    What is the internet approved response for this bad boy?
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,147
    iainf72 wrote:
    Back on topic : Aru had a lawyer on that case now and the internet is telling me that is proof of his guilt as Armstrong used lawyers.

    What is the internet approved response for this bad boy?

    It was confusing for a while there, no one knew who to hate the most.
    Seems Nibali is now the focus of the mob.
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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 11,940
    iainf72 wrote:
    Back on topic : Aru had a lawyer on that case now and the internet is telling me that is proof of his guilt as Armstrong used lawyers.

    What is the internet approved response for this bad boy?

    Fess up.

    Even if he didn't do it.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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  • taliustalius Posts: 282
    iainf72 wrote:
    Back on topic : Aru had a lawyer on that case now and the internet is telling me that is proof of his guilt as Armstrong used lawyers.

    What is the internet approved response for this bad boy?

    Forceful denial, sudden embarrassing confession, followed by a period of contrition, then a sex tape and a funny/cute picture of a cat.
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  • MacaloonMacaloon Posts: 5,545
    iainf72 wrote:
    What is the internet approved response for this bad boy?

    It's a bit of a pickle. The kid has been convicted on the hastily withdrawn say-so of a sanctimonious gobshite. Even if there's a passport case in the pipeline this makes a mockery of due process. We could do with hearing more from Hendo about his sources and the reaction of the authorities when he reported his concerns.
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  • andypandyp Posts: 9,155
    I don't recall Henderson being very vocal when a couple of his teammates were rumoured to be doping.

    Funny that.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,453
    andyp wrote:
    I don't recall Henderson being very vocal when a couple of his teammates were rumoured to be doping.

    Funny that.
    Maybe because he knew they weren't doping. Or at least didn't think they were.

    It seems you want him to vocalise you own opinions rather than his.
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 27,707
    I think he is just venting out what many people out there think anyway...

    Of course in the age of social media and defamation, finger pointing without proof is no longer tolerated...
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,230
    i expect that this legal threat against henderson won't be mentioned again and will be followed in the coming weeks / months by the announcement of a case. i know he's a bit of a nob but i reckon he knew full well when posting that there'd be no case on the back of it.
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 27,707
    gsk82 wrote:
    i expect that this legal threat against henderson won't be mentioned again and will be followed in the coming weeks / months by the announcement of a case. i know he's a bit of a doorknob but i reckon he knew full well when posting that there'd be no case on the back of it.

    Since the old days, cycling has been a sport where everybody knew what others were doing, or at least thought so. Everybody knew about Armstrong, for instance, but they were all at it or involved in a team where somebody was at it, so nobody could speak... If Henderson said what he said, I suspect he must know things that in the peloton are known
  • andrewjosephandrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    i've got a feeling this is correct. UCI might know of the passport query so didn't press Astana's expulsion, knowing they would bring it on themselves.
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,667
    gsk82 wrote:
    i expect that this legal threat against henderson won't be mentioned again and will be followed in the coming weeks / months by the announcement of a case. i know he's a bit of a doorknob but i reckon he knew full well when posting that there'd be no case on the back of it.

    Since the old days, cycling has been a sport where everybody knew what others were doing, or at least thought so. Everybody knew about Armstrong, for instance, but they were all at it or involved in a team where somebody was at it, so nobody could speak... If Henderson said what he said, I suspect he must know things that in the peloton are known

    This is perfect.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 12,944
    time will tell...
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  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Assuming Aru has a biopassport case, do none of you think it is wrong that a. Greg somehow knows of this and that b. he refers to it?
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 12,944
    Assuming Aru has a biopassport case, do none of you think it is wrong that a. Greg somehow knows of this and that b. he refers to it?


    its gossip isn't it... could be a gazillion reasons why this is doing the rounds stretching from totally bu11sh1t to someone in the know let it slip.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Well maybe, none of them really acceptable.

    Greg has done his damage by sullying Aru's image publicly which will have ramifications for Aru's career.
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  • iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Assuming Aru has a biopassport case, do none of you think it is wrong that a. Greg somehow knows of this and that b. he refers to it?

    It's poor he mentioned it, but if there is one I'd not be surprised if other riders knew about it.

    Small community, some people would need to know and it'll get out.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 18,147
    The most likely scenario is that Aru is at the 'letter' stage.
    In these circumstances then it's wrong for Henderson to speak out as Aru is entitled to be treated fairly under the process.

    However the flip side of this is that doping only stops if it becomes unacceptable to the rest of the peloton.
    That needs a voice.
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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,230
    Assuming Aru has a biopassport case, do none of you think it is wrong that a. Greg somehow knows of this and that b. he refers to it?

    it is. its very unprofessional of him, bus as has been discussed he's a bit of a nob
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 65,373 Lives Here
    I'm annoyed tbh. (within the context of this, which, compared to actual annoyances, is fairly small....)

    I'm fairly meh about doping, but even I like the illusion of of clean racing. No-one likes cheating if you can see it.

    When the guys get busted afterwards at least I had the illusion it was all OK when i was watching it. When I find out later on I don't care too much usually, because I've already had my fun with that race. Sure if there's a monumental performance I'll want to google I'd rather it be clean, but you know what I mean.

    Now I have the worst of both worlds. Aru will still be racing, but I'll sit there thinking he's cheating.
  • andypandyp Posts: 9,155
    RichN95 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I don't recall Henderson being very vocal when a couple of his teammates were rumoured to be doping.

    Funny that.
    Maybe because he knew they weren't doping. Or at least didn't think they were.

    It seems you want him to vocalise you own opinions rather than his.

    My point was that he's happy to pass on gossip about someone in another team, doesn't say a thing when rumours are circulating about riders on his team.
  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Random fact of the day: 'iain4for twitter' gives just 1 result of google
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