Fizik Arione Saddle problem

davoj
davoj Posts: 190
edited August 2014 in Road general
Hi,

I recently purchased a new bike and a Fizik Arione came with it and i am wondering how long it takes for one's bum to get used to a new saddle?

I have been suffering on any ride over 2 hrs and have had it about 6 weeks now, i only really get to one ride over 2hrs a week.

Any help or feedback would be appreciated.

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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    You either get on with them or don't - like most modern saddles, there's no break-in so if after trying a few slight adjustments to angle (nose-down) and you're still uncomfortable then suggest you try something else. FWIW flat saddles only tend to work for folks who have good pelvic rotation. A decent LBS should have a range of test saddles for you to try before committing to purchase.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • simona75
    simona75 Posts: 336
    I think the Arione is designed for the very flexible rider (can you touch your toes?) If not the Aliante may be better for you
  • neal1984
    neal1984 Posts: 240
    It took me about 200 miles to get used to the Arione. I love it now. I'm not that flexible so maybe I should have tried the saddle suggested above but I'm quite comfy on it now so have it on both bikes.

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  • davoj
    davoj Posts: 190
    Monty Dog wrote:
    You either get on with them or don't - like most modern saddles, there's no break-in so if after trying a few slight adjustments to angle (nose-down) and you're still uncomfortable then suggest you try something else. FWIW flat saddles only tend to work for folks who have good pelvic rotation. A decent LBS should have a range of test saddles for you to try before committing to purchase.


    Thanks for the reply. How would tilting it down help?
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Mine was fine from the get go.

    Only thing I dont like about it is the front is so pointy - when you stop at lights or whatever and get off the saddle it jabs into you.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,701
    davoj wrote:
    Monty Dog wrote:
    You either get on with them or don't - like most modern saddles, there's no break-in so if after trying a few slight adjustments to angle (nose-down) and you're still uncomfortable then suggest you try something else. FWIW flat saddles only tend to work for folks who have good pelvic rotation. A decent LBS should have a range of test saddles for you to try before committing to purchase.


    Thanks for the reply. How would tilting it down help?

    Start with it totally flat but you can adjust it a few degrees each way...

    But the reality is that saddles either fit or dont. I can't stand fizik saddles personally
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    A saddle is so much a personal choice.
    You may have to concede on the 'weight' issue of it and as suggested go for the Aliante...
    My Selle SLR Carbonio, I have to check very regularly with a spirit level to ensure absolute dead pan flat... the slightest tilt from a knock on the road and I can tell and upsets me....
    The acid test for me for a saddle is roller work... 1 hour sat in....if you accomplish that . as impossible even to fidget on rollers, equates to 4/5 + hours on the road.
    These rollers where you can lift your backside, I cannot afford!
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  • davoj
    davoj Posts: 190
    Than my next question is:

    After how many months/KM should a person give up on a saddle if discomfort continues?
  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    If you are uncomfortable then you are not obviously likely to be enjoying riding. I would change soon as if you can't get used to it after 6 weeks you are not likely to ever.

    What saddle was on your previous bike? Is there a chance you could find something of a similar shape?
  • Depends how much you ride but 2 or 3 rides of decent length should tell you whether there is a problem or not. Don't assume it's the saddle though, especially if you find that moving it off horizontal helps matters. You are much less likely to have saddle discomfort if your bike is a good fit. A saddle that's too high will nearly always cause discomfort
  • davoj
    davoj Posts: 190
    If you are uncomfortable then you are not obviously likely to be enjoying riding. I would change soon as if you can't get used to it after 6 weeks you are not likely to ever.

    What saddle was on your previous bike? Is there a chance you could find something of a similar shape?

    Yea it was a San Marco saddle, I would probaly go for something similar again but hate to waste money. I will give it another couple of weeks and see how it goes.

    Thanks.
  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    davoj wrote:
    If you are uncomfortable then you are not obviously likely to be enjoying riding. I would change soon as if you can't get used to it after 6 weeks you are not likely to ever.

    What saddle was on your previous bike? Is there a chance you could find something of a similar shape?

    Yea it was a San Marco saddle, I would probaly go for something similar again but hate to waste money. I will give it another couple of weeks and see how it goes.

    Thanks.

    I appreciate you don't want to spend money unnecessarily but if you are in discomfort on it, sooner or later you will dread climbing on the bike and if you ain't riding it then that's a waste too.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,701
    I guess no one told you to factor in the cost of a new saddle and stem into the bike cost. You re far from the only one but in reality those two things (comfy saddle and bike fit) make more of a difference than any of your carbon fibre buzzwords on the frame...
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I usually find one ride enough to know whether a saddle works for me. Fitted a new Antrares to my CX bike and rode a 100-mile offroad race - one way to find whether it was OK.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • dilatory
    dilatory Posts: 565
    I'm not a fan of my Arione. I have 3,000 miles on it and while it's okay, it's never really super comfortable but not uncomfortable enough to justify me changing it. I'd like to try a solid carbon saddle and might grab a knockoff one from the bay just to see if they're much cop first.
  • I would certainly give it a few weeks.

    I switched to a Toupe years ago, and it beat the hell out of my backside (sit bones), for the first few weeks as my sit bones weren't used to being so....sat on! After that, if was superb.

    Having said that, been back on Ariones for years now :D Got a bit sick of Toupes sagging and cracking.
  • kajjal
    kajjal Posts: 3,380
    Once you get the saddle position right in my experience you should see the improvement right away. Where is the discomfort and after how long riding does it start ?

    My old saddle that came with the bike was too narrow and after an hour it dug in painfully. Measured my sit bones and bought a new saddle (specialized avatar) of the right wider width with a cut out and can now ride for hours fine.
  • davoj
    davoj Posts: 190
    Kajjal wrote:
    Once you get the saddle position right in my experience you should see the improvement right away. Where is the discomfort and after how long riding does it start ?

    My old saddle that came with the bike was too narrow and after an hour it dug in painfully. Measured my sit bones and bought a new saddle (specialized avatar) of the right wider width with a cut out and can now ride for hours fine.

    It starts after about 70-90min, it's seems to be on the sit bones and the perineum area. I will give it another 2 weeks which will bring it up to 6 weeks and if no improvement than will have a look for a new saddle.

    Thanks for the replies.