Riding mate been knocked off....

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  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    The OP writes a statement that his friend was knocked off his bike. This is sad news and it happens all too often. But then he really says nothing else other than what happend. What are we meant to say? Is there some pearls of wisdom to be shared by all? It was a rant after all no matter how serious the topic. Not sure what else Ugo can do. Would the OP prefer we all began molly coddling him and offering him our condolences? Sh1t happens. I read all the time of people being killed or hurt out on the roads. this is no new thing. Think some people on here need to calm the fcuk down a bit TBH
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    To be fair to Ugo there needs to a stickied thread for those sort of incidents, if you been here a fair while they get a bit repetitive. I realise such incidents are very personal to those involved but unless you really do need advice on your options then it's just one level up from posting pictures of your dinner on facebook.
  • TKF
    TKF Posts: 279
    SmoggySteve wrote:
    Not sure what else Ugo can do
    Why does he have to do anything?
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Hope your mate recovers quickly.

    Can't believe some have come into the thread and basically insinuated that you shouldn't have posted at all, if they don't like the thread it is pretty easy to leave it alone.
  • Philby
    Philby Posts: 328
    [quotTo be fair to Ugo there needs to a stickied thread for those sort of incidents, if you been here a fair while they get a bit repetitivee][/quote]

    To be fair most of the topics on forums are repetitive - what tyres, what wheels, what bike etc etc.? People should be encouraged to post otherwise the forum will die, or it will only be the big-hitters who are allowed to post or comment.

    I thought it was worthy of being posted and most of the responses were supportive.
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    Yep, if it was a post about how carbon is evil, factory wheels fall apart or any new technology for cycling is a waste of time it would have got the Ugo seal of approval.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    verylonglegs wrote:
    To be fair to Ugo there needs to a stickied thread for those sort of incidents, if you been here a fair while they get a bit repetitive. I realise such incidents are very personal to those involved but unless you really do need advice on your options then it's just one level up from posting pictures of your dinner on facebook.

    The road section is a bit disorganised in that respect. The commuting section has a few recurring threads which are routinely used... including one just for rants! The good thing is that all the information you will ever need on the topic is in the same "folder", which would be handy for a topic like this one. People who have an accident might want to do a bit of reading to see what options they've got.

    I did not understand whether Adam was looking for advice or it was just a rant. If it was a request for advice, I could have merged with another existing topic, to consolidate the content, but being only a rant (nothing wrong with rants) it would not be of much use and would only create mass with little content.

    Moral is, while we can't stop people from opening a thread every time they feel like, for the purpose of the forum, we could and indeed should merge similar topics in larger "folders".

    Then of course one can be a bit too direct, or he can offer tea and biscuits in the process... the lack of which might generate further ranting... not as intended, of course... :?

    Is this the same thing as the endless number of threads about wheel upgrade in the "road buying" section? Yes and no... yes because it is the same thing, no because the advice on the latter changes with time, due to the latest Wiggle sale, new wheels entering the market, old wheels being discounted and so on... and old advice is rarely useful... but yes, when you see five threads which are exactly the same on the main page, you wonder why people keep opening them and you can give yourself a range of answers... :wink:
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  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    Druidor wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    RTA + injury = police mandatory attendance? or have I missed something here?


    That was always my take on any injury caused in an RTA.

    Mr Plod to be notified and deal with at scene.

    Wrong. It's been posted on threads numerous times what responsibilities there are with injury and non-injury RTCs, The police do not attend every injury RTC. It also doesn't need to be reported if the the insurance details have been exchanged. However, in this incident it doesn't sound as if the details have been exchanged in which case, the driver must report it to the police as soon as practicable and in any case within 24 hours. Doesn't mean he has up to 24 hours to report it either.

    Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) Part VII
    Miscellaneous and General
    170: Duties in case of accident
    Duty of driver to stop, report accident and give information or documents.

    (1) This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a Mechanically Propelled Vehicle on a road or other public place, an accident occurs by which -
    (a) personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that vehicle, or
    (b) damage is caused -
    (i) to a vehicle other than that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
    (ii) to an animal other than an animal in or on that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
    (iii) to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road in question is situated or land adjacent to such land.
    (2) The driver of the mechanically propelled vehicle must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address and also the name and address of the owner and the identification marks of the vehicle.
    (3) If for any reason the driver of the mechanically propelled vehicle does not give his name and address under subsection (2) above, he must report the accident.
    (4) A person who fails to comply with subsection (2) or (3) above is guilty of an offence.
    (5) If, in a case where this section applies by virtue of subsection (1)(a) above, the driver of the vehicle does not at the time of the accident produce such a certificate of insurance or security, or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act -

    (a) to a constable, or
    (b) to some person who, having reasonable grounds for so doing, has required him to produce it,
    the driver must report the accident and produce such a certificate or other evidence.

    This subsection does not apply to the driver of an invalid carriage.

    (6) To comply with a duty under this section to report an accident or to produce such a certificate of insurance or security, or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act, the driver -

    (a) must do so at a police station or to a constable, and
    (b) must do so as soon as is reasonably practicable and, in any case, within twenty-four hours of the occurrence of the accident.

    (7) A person who fails to comply with a duty under subsection (5) above is guilty of an offence, but he shall not be convicted by reason only of a failure to produce a certificate or other evidence if, within seven days after the occurrence of the accident, the certificate or other evidence is produced at a police station that was specified by him at the time when the accident was reported.
    (8) In this section "animal" means horse, cattle, ass, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog.
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  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    @colinthecop... Did i really say that? It was rather good wasnt it!
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Colinthecop wrote:
    On reflection - No.

    The mum has let her kid wander off to the Shop after he has knocked someone over and then she makes excuses for his actions.

    It's the mum that needs punched. In the face.

    :D:D:D ahh a bit of light relief, just what's needed :D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    I think rant is too strong a word. There is a need to share something that happened with like minded individuals who will understand and might give good advice or take the pith. Whichever, ive got it off my chest and im starting to deal with the emotion of it all. Im simply telling my story cos it will make me feel better. Perhaps there is scope for an agony aunt? I nominate ugo...
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    Mikey23 wrote:
    I think rant is too strong a word. There is a need to share something that happened with like minded individuals who will understand and might give good advice or take the pith. Whichever, ive got it off my chest and im starting to deal with the emotion of it all. Im simply telling my story cos it will make me feel better. Perhaps there is scope for an agony aunt? I nominate ugo...

    Cheers... :lol:

    I think I am being misunderstood here. As much as I find "rants" rather pointless, there is nothing against the rules in having a good "outing". Thing is, people were starting gathering up legal advice, as they always do on these threads, while I wasn't too sure the OP was actually looking for any, as it seemed to me he had done all the right things.
    Some of the information people give can be of use to others, in the right context, which is not that of a rant against a motorist...
    Once I was reassured by the OP this was just a "sharing of experience" (fancy that expression?), then I can't care less what people do or say... this thread will sink never to be resuscitated again. Mine was an attempt to see if there was something worth keeping, to be merged... that's all
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  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    :-)
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I know when i passed my test I was a rubbish driver. Doing 20 half hour lessons (back in the day) over the space of a few months wasn't enough. I think things are better these days, but even so - its clear that the kid isnt a great driver.

    Hope your mate heals quickly and gets the damage paid for.
  • Colinthecop
    Colinthecop Posts: 996
    Mikey23 wrote:
    @colinthecop... Did i really say that? It was rather good wasnt it!

    Yes, In an accident thread strangely enough....

    Good...? It should be on a banner on this forum rather than those stupid adverts. :shock:
  • lawrences
    lawrences Posts: 1,011
    Kids only been passed for 5 days so he's not losing any no claims bonus. I suggest going through the mother paying for it all as it will cost them more.
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    lawrences wrote:
    Kids only been passed for 5 days so he's not losing any no claims bonus. I suggest going through the mother paying for it all as it will cost them more.

    Wrong...a young driver with a claim against their name will sky rocket the insurance however it might lead him to drive uninsured :O
  • Buckie2k5
    Buckie2k5 Posts: 600
    lawrences wrote:
    Kids only been passed for 5 days so he's not losing any no claims bonus. I suggest going through the mother paying for it all as it will cost them more.

    The problem is he is no doubt on his mums insurance and she will lose all her no claims ;)
  • lawrences
    lawrences Posts: 1,011
    Well in that case. Sue him for all he's worth. I'm pretty sure the whole cycling group who saw the incident have had sleepless nights.
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    lawrences wrote:
    Kids only been passed for 5 days so he's not losing any no claims bonus. I suggest going through the mother paying for it all as it will cost them more.

    might not have no claims but a new driver who has had an accident will cost a fortune to insure going forward
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  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,665
    I would only suggest "going through the mother" if she's hot.

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