Cry baby / Tough guy (You decide)

de_sisti

Which one is a wimp and who's the tough guy?

ddraver

Be as miserable + snarky as you like at International football but there are few things like it for sport drama.

Even as a BRPR regular, cycling doesnt come close!

verylonglegs

I'm sorry, this one often comes up on cycling forums about the difference between the two sports and it just illustrates how many people don't understand the reasons for the behaviour. The footballers fake stuff not because they are wimps but because it's to cheat and gain an advantage, much like cyclists take drugs to get ahead of the competition. If there was somehow an advantaged to be gained in a bike race by rolling around on the floor exaggerating injuries then they wouldn't hesitate to use it, it's naive to think otherwise.

ddraver

True. Cyclists tend to forget that Pro Cycling is not a shining beacon of true sport but is more of a filthy, cesspool of a sport where doping and selling races for profit have been not only commonplace but universal since it's inception.

Strith

Whilst I'm generally of the opinion soccer is the most pointless game ever, I also think that photo is equally as pointless.

Soccer players, just as all other professional athletes, will cheat and bend the laws of their sport however they can to take an advantage. Get over it.

hangeron

The brit track sprinter Hinds deliberately crashed after he messed up a team sprint start in world champs to force a restart. As verylonglegs says....if the system can be gamed to gain advantage it will....whatever the sport.

jameses

Didn't Hindes do the same at the Olympics? And then even went on to say in an interview that he had deliberately crashed because they had a bad start?

StillGoing

Compare puffball with RU where you have players trying to convince the ref they aren't injured whilst fingers point at angles they shouldn't or have received some knock that brings up a swelling you'd be proud of elsewhere. Puffball is a sport full of overpaid cretins funded by the spectator and those who subscribe to Sky and BT Sport irrespective of whether they watch the crap game. At least with cycling the funding for the riders comes from sponsorship and a much lesser extend via indirect sales to the public.

chris_bass

philthy3 wrote:

Compare puffball with RU where you have players trying to convince the ref they aren't injured whilst fingers point at angles they shouldn't or have received some knock that brings up a swelling you'd be proud of elsewhere. Puffball is a sport full of overpaid cretins funded by the spectator and those who subscribe to Sky and BT Sport irrespective of whether they watch the crap game. At least with cycling the funding for the riders comes from sponsorship and a much lesser extend via indirect sales to the public.

and in rugby you get players cutting themselves so they can be substituted. Like others have said, if an advantage can be gained people will cheat.

As for footballers being cretins (as you put it) i don't think thy are any worse than any other sport its just the ones who are get in the papers a lot more and so it seems as though they are much worse, people want to read about what a certain footballer did than some cyclist they have never heard of.

supermurph09

Puffball?

mamba80

ddraver wrote:

True. Cyclists tend to forget that Pro Cycling is not a shining beacon of true sport but is more of a filthy, cesspool of a sport where doping and selling races for profit have been not only commonplace but universal since it's inception.

yeah I know... that's what makes it great !!!
footie is just a game the English cannot play.

MisterMuncher

/Watches hurling

RyanB

MisterMuncher wrote:

/Watches hurling

Now you're talking. Thats proper sport.

CiB

philthy3 wrote:

Compare puffball with RU where you have players trying to convince the ref they aren't injured whilst fingers point at angles they shouldn't or have received some knock that brings up a swelling you'd be proud of elsewhere. Puffball is a sport full of overpaid cretins funded by the spectator and those who subscribe to Sky and BT Sport irrespective of whether they watch the crap game. At least with cycling the funding for the riders comes from sponsorship and a much lesser extend via indirect sales to the public.

Telegraph thing wrote:

What we say: “These overpaid prima donna footballers should learn to respect the referee, stop faking injury and be real men, like rugby players.”
What we mean: “I’m too posh for football. Do you like my red trousers?”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filt ... -mean.html

damocles10

In terms of injury, if you combine the two you get the Italian renaissance game of Calcio Fiorentino....not likely anyone can fake an injury in that game though.

dilatory

Well you see the acting up is creeping into rugby at the moment too. High / late tackles are being acted up considerably more than they used to. It's just gaming the system. It's like professional fouls, dirty hands in the ruck etc etc. Everyone can and will bend the rules if they can get away with it and come out in front. They are professional athletes being paid money to succeed. It happens in all sports. Cyclists just cheat in different ways.

That said, the three sports I watch with any regularity are Rugby, Cycling and MMA so it does make watching football once in a blue moon an eye opening experience hah.

sloppyschleckonds

De Sisti wrote:

Which one is a wimp and who's the tough guy?

This was on twitter a week ago, the OP should credit the source

ddraver

Frankly, the amount it was retweeted by sycophantic cycling fans, anyone that could find the original source should rename himslef Dr Livingstone and go and live in a houseboat on the Nile

@TourdeJose has tweeted it at least 3 times that I ve seen...

hangeron

Sorry - yes Hindes "crashed" at the Limpics not the World Champs

darkhairedlord

hangeron wrote:

Sorry - yes Hindes "crashed" at the Limpics not the World Champs

hinds is the jurgen klinsman of cycling...

hangeron

On the other hand its been ages since ive seen a rider bite a chunk out of someone else in the peleton....presumably all these gels have made riders soft.

Bring back the Cannibal

Rouge Penguin

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

De Sisti wrote:

Which one is a wimp and who's the tough guy?

This was on twitter a week ago, the OP should credit the source

The thread is about cheating and gaining an advantage, which he has done.

Matthewfalle

philthy3 wrote:

Compare puffball with RU where you have players trying to convince the ref they aren't injured whilst fingers point at angles they shouldn't or have received some knock that brings up a swelling you'd be proud of elsewhere. Puffball is a sport full of overpaid cretins funded by the spectator and those who subscribe to Sky and BT Sport irrespective of whether they watch the crap game. At least with cycling the funding for the riders comes from sponsorship and a much lesser extend via indirect sales to the public.

Much like that bloke who was caught taking a fake blood capsule out of his sock and eating it, thinking he could get away with it in front of 10,000 people and 20 TV cameras........

CiB

Matthewfalle wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

Compare puffball with RU where you have players trying to convince the ref they aren't injured whilst fingers point at angles they shouldn't or have received some knock that brings up a swelling you'd be proud of elsewhere. Puffball is a sport full of overpaid cretins funded by the spectator and those who subscribe to Sky and BT Sport irrespective of whether they watch the crap game. At least with cycling the funding for the riders comes from sponsorship and a much lesser extend via indirect sales to the public.

Much like that bloke who was caught taking a fake blood capsule out of his sock and eating it, thinking he could get away with it in front of 10,000 people and 20 TV cameras........

BT Sport carries quite a lot of rugby. So does Sky Sports. And they get you though to Eurosport and its cycling coverage.

Based on the sheer volume of recreational and performance enhancing drugs that pro-cyclists have consumed over the years, it's a pretty safe bet that if there were some advantage in rolling around on the floor whilst everyone else legs it up the road quicker than you can say Jack Robinson, cycling would see just as much poncing around and play-acting as The Beautiful Game does.