Integrated gear/brake levers

rubez
rubez Posts: 323
edited April 2014 in MTB workshop & tech
Can you actually open up those douchey 2-in1 integrated brake/gear shifters?

It is a Shimano Tourney and I am getting separate brake and gear levers.

Hopefully I can get it apart and just use the existing cables, but I can't seem to open it up - have taken out 3 screws, but it is still holding together firmly :evil:

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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Why would you want to?
  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    Cause they look crap, and I am getting a new shifter to be compatible with 7-speed. A pair of nice brake levers were only £10 too.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    You don't need to open them, just remove the bung and slide the cable out the opposite way it goes in.

    But it is a well known fact that 99.987546121478714% of shifting issues are caused by old dead cables. Treat yourself to new ones.
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  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    The cables are brand new, never been used.

    I think you can avoid taking out the brake cable if I remember, but the gearing cable has to be threaded through the shifter, so it has be taken out completely?

    If that is true, could I avoid completely reinstalling the brake cable? (with this 2-in-1 monstrosity)
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    ?
    If you've just put new cables in, surely you can remember.
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  • BigAl
    BigAl Posts: 3,122
    cooldad wrote:
    ?
    If you've just put new cables in, surely you can remember.
    Gotcha, Rubez

    Park Tools has a good webby too, though, I suspect, you may already have been told of it
  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    It's a new bike, cables came pre-installed.

    Want to save the hassle, if possible on the brakes at least.

    Gears have to be done from scratch.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Shimano Tourney? What model number?
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Smells a bit fishy to me
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    No, just hidden under a bridge away from the male goats.....
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    supersonic wrote:
    Shimano Tourney? What model number?

    Not sure, but they look just like this, albeit this is a 7, not a 6-speed.

    02-ST-EF40-21.jpg
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Why do you want to change levers. You say it is a new bike. Poor effort.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    So we can all move on to the next enthralling episode.
    Brakes – line up the slots in housing and barrel adjuster and cable will magically come out. Unhooking it from the lever first will help.
    Gears – remove bung and push cable out backwards. Obviously disconnecting it from the mech and having the shifter in whatever the highest gear is (no tension) will make this possible.
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  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    No. Way.

    Must take you a while to think these up Rubez. 8 out of 10 for effort - :wink:
  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    Right so got the brakes out, awesome.

    You are saying I need to disconnect the cable at the derailleur and thread it out all the way backwards?
  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    Yeah that's what he's saying. You need to disconnect the derailleur, because obviously you cant pull the cable through all the little cable housing bits and shifter with the derailleur still attatched. What have you got in store for us next?
  • rubez
    rubez Posts: 323
    All out, I'll need to install the cables and get the gears tightened, so stand by in a couple of days :lol:

    Any particularly decent tutorials out there?

    In a nutshell, I think you put it to least loosest gear(?) thread the cable through, pull tight and fix in place?
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Yeah that's right the least loosest gear, that's the one.

    Did anyone mention it before? Parktools.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I read on the internet that Parktools is quite useful.

    Seems to be hard to find though.

    But I suggest the most loosest gear, much like the most loosest screws.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Yeah but parktools website ONLY exists to sell you their tools, Rubez said so, so it must be true......
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.