Edge 1000
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tomisitt wrote:How long before Apple bring out a handlebar-mount for the MacBook?
You're just being silly now. Why would anyone want bigger than an ipad on their bike?
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/tacx ... wgodBksAGQ0 -
ye gods! Tablet mounted on your handlebars ... ?!0
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Slowbike wrote:ye gods! Tablet mounted on your handlebars ... ?!
It does say indoor only, so I guess it's for watching Sufferfest etc...
However, there are plenty of waterproof tablet covers for use on handlebar bags.0 -
Ah - we just use a music stand ...
Didn't take the iPads on tour - took kindles - a bit cheaper to replace if they got broken!0 -
Obviously there is an ideal size v feature for a unit for each individual, but I cannot help thinking that loads of you 800 owners would have bought the 1000 if that had been the 800, or even if it had been launched at the same time as the 800.............especially if they were a similar, or even the same price
Upgrading is probably not worth it, especially now as opposed to say 6 months when we know more about the 1000, but all this sl4gging off just seems like sour grapes to me.0 -
Is there a thread on here where people sl4g off people for putting an iPhone on their bike?
Bet there is not and thats way bigger isn't it.
People running with an iPhone look v silly (but no one seems to moan about them), people with iPhones on their bike look slightly silly IMO (but still a lot better than strapping it to your arm :shock: ), people with 800/810's look good and it remains to be seen where the 1000 fits in between the last two.
500 looks by far the best though :-)0 -
Carbonator wrote:people with iPhones on their bike look slightly silly IMO (but still a lot better than strapping it to your arm :shock: ), people with 800/810's look good and it remains to be seen where the 1000 fits in between the last two.
I agree with your analogy about the smartphone and the garmin edge but I don't think it is size that governs it for me.
For me, it is about having a professional tool to do a job and not using another tool that is capable of doing the job but not doing it so well. I'm all for people inaccurately recording their rides on a phone but you can do this without attaching it to the bike and alerting people to the fact that you don't have a cycle computer but would really deep down like one.
Do you think that phones are getting too big?0 -
BrandonA wrote:For me, it is about having a professional tool to do a job and not using another tool that is capable of doing the job but not doing it so well. I'm all for people inaccurately recording their rides on a phone but you can do this without attaching it to the bike and alerting people to the fact that you don't have a cycle computer but would really deep down like one.
Why are they inaccurate? Sure the iPhone 3GS had a poor quality GPS receiver, which is where the idea that iPhones have a bad GPS comes from. But since the iPhone 4 and especially 4S, which have been out for 4 years now; the GPS quality has been excellent.Do you think that phones are getting too big?
Yes, my friend has a Galaxy Note as a phone and it's nearly as big as an iPad! I was looking at the Samsung S5 and thinking how will that fit in my jersey pocket!0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:BrandonA wrote:For me, it is about having a professional tool to do a job and not using another tool that is capable of doing the job but not doing it so well. I'm all for people inaccurately recording their rides on a phone but you can do this without attaching it to the bike and alerting people to the fact that you don't have a cycle computer but would really deep down like one.
Why are they inaccurate? Sure the iPhone 3GS had a poor quality GPS receiver, which is where the idea that iPhones have a bad GPS comes from. But since the iPhone 4 and especially 4S, which have been out for 4 years now; the GPS quality has been excellent.Do you think that phones are getting too big?
Yes, my friend has a Galaxy Note as a phone and it's nearly as big as an iPad! I was looking at the Samsung S5 and thinking how will that fit in my jersey pocket!
My wife rides with others - some of whom record their rides on an iPhone - although not sure which model - the stats are often significantly different to my wifes 810 - with speed & cadence sensor.0 -
Is that because they are smartphones, or would you get the variation between any two devices?
I must admit - I often cycle with a friend and I know we've started and finished segments together, but he apparently finishes the segment in a faster time!0 -
the data is always slighty off between 2 GPSs - even our 810 vs 800 ... but not to the degree of the iPhone - thinking about it, it's probably more to do with where it's carried than GPS accuracy itself - so on the bars may well be the best place for it ...0
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If its in your pocket just to record your ride then thats a different story.
I have a device to tell me what I am doing as much as what I have done.
An iphone in your pocket is not comparable to an 500/510/800/810 IMO
Especially not an 800/810 if its in your jersey pocket.
I know some people are good at talking from down there, but no one has eyes in their ar5e do they?
People do mount them on their bars/stem, usually in a big protective case (maybe one of those extra thick battery cases if they do those with a mount), and I was just pointing out that the size issue is a bit of a red herring.
Has anyone actually seen one. The 800/810 is not that big so it might look fine.0 -
GPS accuracy is determined by many factors (weather, buildings, etc), but primarily it is the quality of the receiver (I believe Garmin use a 12-channel one) and the quality of the aerial. These tend to be better in dedicated GPS devices than smartphones, which often have poor aerials and a certain amount of RF interference as well.0
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Just googled some pics and it does look a fair bit bigger than an 800/810 and not that far off an iPhone.
I much prefer the overall shape to the 800/810, but cannot help thinking that it would be better a bit thicker and less tall.
There is just too much dead space around the usable screen and I cannot help thinking a 1010 will come out and rectify that.0 -
Carby I still want to want one, so I am expecting a detailed update when you get it.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
Boardman FS Pro0 -
Due in 5th May but may be sooner.
Ordered a 120mm stem too
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I love my 500.
I would pay NOT to have to use a 510, 800, 810 or 1000.
It's the right size and weight, has the right info, works a treat.
If they upgraded the 500 for me that means better screen, lighter, NOT bigger, then I'd be interested.
I'm in the market for a spare 500 in case mine dies.0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:Is that because they are smartphones, or would you get the variation between any two devices?
I must admit - I often cycle with a friend and I know we've started and finished segments together, but he apparently finishes the segment in a faster time!
I did an experiment (all rides were deleted from Strava after the test).
A Garmin records your position every second, the iphone every three.
When I road a particular section on a ride it was clocked at 27 seconds.
I then doctored the GPS file and extracted the 1st, 4th, 7th etc trackpoints to one file. The 2nd, 5th, 8th etc to another file. And finally the 3rd, 6th, 9th etc to a third file. I then uploaded all rides to Stava. On this particular segment my times were 26, 27 and 29 seconds.
For the entire ride you'd see similar differences in the segment times.
Strava starts and finishes a segment effort based on when you get within a certain distance from the first and last co-ordinate of the segment. The above test shows just how in accurate a smartphone will record when it is only recording times every 3 seconds.
You can see similar discrepancies to the above when you have both an iphone and a garmin and you record you ride on each device.0 -
If the difference is 3 seconds, I can live with that
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bernithebiker wrote:I love my 500.
I would pay NOT to have to use a 510, 800, 810 or 1000.
It's the right size and weight, has the right info, works a treat.
If they upgraded the 500 for me that means better screen, lighter, NOT bigger, then I'd be interested.
I'm in the market for a spare 500 in case mine dies.
Can you send me £200 to not send you my 800 please.0 -
I wish they'd update the 500.... All I want is a 500 with wireless data transfer because the USB socket is usually the thing that makes the unit useless.... Can't upload any ride data from mine anymore
I'll replace with another 500 though, hopefully the price will go down a bit more with the 1000 being released 0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:If the difference is 3 seconds, I can live with that
Seems about right to me,.
I used my Edge 510 and iPhone (running Strava) to record a ride a while ago, mainly for curiosity. On this segment http://www.strava.com/segments/3452181 edge said 39s and iPhone was 41s or 42s.
Similar thing on http://www.strava.com/segments/1146508 5-6 second difference (iPhone slower)0 -
junglist_matty wrote:I wish they'd update the 500.... All I want is a 500 with wireless data transfer because the USB socket is usually the thing that makes the unit useless.... Can't upload any ride data from mine anymore
I'll replace with another 500 though, hopefully the price will go down a bit more with the 1000 being released
How do you charge it?0 -
Looking at this discussion keeps making my think, why does nobody sell an iphone case for the bike that has a garmin style mounting on it so you can use an out in front phone mount. Surely it makes sense? I use a Topeak ride 2 case which is great, but I'd be happy to have a mount for it to clip to the front of the bike, and look like I have a Garmin....Specialized Allez Sport 20130
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apreading wrote:junglist_matty wrote:I wish they'd update the 500.... All I want is a 500 with wireless data transfer because the USB socket is usually the thing that makes the unit useless.... Can't upload any ride data from mine anymore
I'll replace with another 500 though, hopefully the price will go down a bit more with the 1000 being released
How do you charge it?
You would charge it via two small charging pins and a clip on charger like Forerunners have.
I would replace my 500 with another too, but I still want an 810 or 1000.
Not being flash, just pointing out that they have different qualities.0 -
Lancew wrote:Looking at this discussion keeps making my think, why does nobody sell an iphone case for the bike that has a garmin style mounting on it so you can use an out in front phone mount. Surely it makes sense? I use a Topeak ride 2 case which is great, but I'd be happy to have a mount for it to clip to the front of the bike, and look like I have a Garmin....
Maybe because the iPhone is pretty big and would need a waterproof case making it even bigger.
Does the touchscreen work if its in a waterproof case?
Battery life is pants and does not have all the features.
An iphone is not for sticking on your bike or arm IMO and the only two reasons people do it is because they are iPhone obsessed or to tight to buy a bike specific device.
iPhones are not cheap so if you can afford an iPhone, you can afford a Garmin.0 -
markhewitt1978 wrote:If the difference is 3 seconds, I can live with that
LOL. I agree it is only small time. Last year I loved to chase Strava and it just shows how pointless it is on shorter sections as the margin for error is so large. On longer rides and segments I agree 3 seconds is insignificant.
Another issue though with phones is that the margin of error on positioning you is larger. This could lead in you missing segment efforts if Strava does not think you covered a segment.0 -
Carbonator wrote:Lancew wrote:Looking at this discussion keeps making my think, why does nobody sell an iphone case for the bike that has a garmin style mounting on it so you can use an out in front phone mount. Surely it makes sense? I use a Topeak ride 2 case which is great, but I'd be happy to have a mount for it to clip to the front of the bike, and look like I have a Garmin....
Maybe because the iPhone is pretty big and would need a waterproof case making it even bigger.
Does the touchscreen work if its in a waterproof case?
Battery life is pants and does not have all the features.
An iphone is not for sticking on your bike or arm IMO and the only two reasons people do it is because they are iPhone obsessed or to tight to buy a bike specific device.
iPhones are not cheap so if you can afford an iPhone, you can afford a Garmin.
LOL. An iphone does probably cost more than a 1,000. I guess it comes down to priorities. Are you a serious cyclist who wants all the gadgets or is a flash phone more important to you.
Before I got my Garmin I used to record my rides with my (work's) iphone. It was a long ride and it killed the battery. Luckily I didn't have any incidents that required me to make an emergency phone call. You need a phone in case you have an issue in the countryside miles from civilisation. Regardless of the cycle computer, I think they are all better than a phone for this reason.0 -
Carbonator wrote:Lancew wrote:Looking at this discussion keeps making my think, why does nobody sell an iphone case for the bike that has a garmin style mounting on it so you can use an out in front phone mount. Surely it makes sense? I use a Topeak ride 2 case which is great, but I'd be happy to have a mount for it to clip to the front of the bike, and look like I have a Garmin....
Maybe because the iPhone is pretty big and would need a waterproof case making it even bigger.
Does the touchscreen work if its in a waterproof case?
Battery life is pants and does not have all the features.
An iphone is not for sticking on your bike or arm IMO and the only two reasons people do it is because they are iPhone obsessed or to tight to buy a bike specific device.
iPhones are not cheap so if you can afford an iPhone, you can afford a Garmin.
+1I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
Can I outbid him? I will accept £150 to not send you my 800.Slowbike wrote:bernithebiker wrote:I love my 500.
I would pay NOT to have to use a 510, 800, 810 or 1000.
It's the right size and weight, has the right info, works a treat.
If they upgraded the 500 for me that means better screen, lighter, NOT bigger, then I'd be interested.
I'm in the market for a spare 500 in case mine dies.
Can you send me £200 to not send you my 800 please.
That's quite a good deal as I have already paid someone £175 to not give me his 810.0
