advise on bike/ group set / wheels

Mac418s
Mac418s Posts: 12
edited August 2013 in Road buying advice
i need a little advice, after a new bike but as is the case with a lot of people the budget it the biggest factor for me (and the wife) and would like to get the most possible.
next year i will be cycling from Portsmouth to Pompeii with work (approx 30 of us plus support, so no need to carry any kit) as well as other sportives. i want a bike that is easy to ride but at the same time be a little more aggressive than my specialised tricross (great bike just a little slow)
using the bike builder on ribble's website i have put together a bike that seems to fit the bill.
ribble R872
with ultegra triple, i know that wont be everyone cuppa tea but i don't climb very well and i like the 52/39/30 mixed with a 11-28 cassette would be a perfect combination for me
itm pathom handlebars, seat-post and stem
and mavic cosmic carbone sl wheels
it comes to just short of £2300 which is at the very limits of my budget but affordable.

if i take into consideration peoples comments regarding poor after sale service does this seem a good bike mix, like i said already i just want the best i can for my money and really don't care about what name is on the side of the bike. considering my budget again if i downgrade to 105 and or the wheels i can save money there also around £600-£700, would i notice a huge amount of difference. does anyone have any advise or other suggestions.
other bikes i have looked at, all seam lower spec in one area or another, are specialised venge £2300, cube agreed gtc sl £1800, trek domane £1800.

many thanks

Comments

  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    I would have a rethink on the wheels. Where Cosmics are great wheels, they are not what you want for the ride you want to do. Best off getting something more robust without adding too much weight. Cosmics are no the lightest of wheels anyway so handbuilt wheels would be a better call.
  • t4tomo
    t4tomo Posts: 2,643
    You will notice the differnece of better wheels more than a better group set. ultegra doesn't really give any performance benefit over 105 or tiagra - it may be marginally smoother, a gramme or 2 lighter and a bit prettier but it won't make you ride any faster. Good wheels will be lighter and have less friction in the hubs. I.e. My bike freewheels faster than my two riding buddies do as they have pretty basic stock wheels.
    Bianchi Infinito CV
    Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Ultegra
    Brompton S Type
    Carrera Vengeance Ultimate Ltd
    Gary Fisher Aquila '98
    Front half of a Viking Saratoga Tandem
  • Mac418s
    Mac418s Posts: 12
    What suggestions do you have for wheels? Would it make sense to purchase the bike with the stock wheels on then look for an upgrade? If I leave the stock wheels on it would leave me around £500-£600 for a set. That is assuming I buy the ribble bike.
  • markos1963
    markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    Mac418s wrote:
    What suggestions do you have for wheels? Would it make sense to purchase the bike with the stock wheels on then look for an upgrade? If I leave the stock wheels on it would leave me around £500-£600 for a set. That is assuming I buy the ribble bike.
    I would say that is a good option. Get the cheapest wheels you can with the bike(can be used for training/winter etc) and then spend your saving on some nice, light(to get you over the Alps) stiff and easily repaired wheels. I like your option to go with a triple, it will really help you on long days in the mountains and with a 52 big ring it will still give you a big enough gear to have some fun. With a triple like that you might even get away with a tighter spaced cassette like a 12-27 or even a 12-25, just a thought.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    Mac418s wrote:
    What suggestions do you have for wheels? Would it make sense to purchase the bike with the stock wheels on then look for an upgrade? If I leave the stock wheels on it would leave me around £500-£600 for a set. That is assuming I buy the ribble bike.

    My poorman advice is If you have to do a long tour, like you do, don't get fancy wheels and don't bring along wheels that cannot be repaired on the spot, so NO Mavic, Shimano, Fulcrum or Campagnolo wheels. You do need wheels that use J bend type spokes, available in any bike shop around Europe. You can either talk to a builder/LBS and go for a custom made set or for a factory set that use J spokes... among the latter Planet X, Pro-Lite and American Classic spring to mind
    left the forum March 2023
  • Mac418s
    Mac418s Posts: 12
    Just had a look at the wheels and the Planet X 52mm Carbon Clincher Wheelset
    Look stunning but are they any good?
  • smoggysteve
    smoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    You need to stop looking at bling wheels for the event you are planning. Get them at a later date, but for the length of time you are riding, listen to the advice of buying more sturdy, easily repaired alloys. They will get beaten up on a long ride especially on roads that are less than perfect. 52mm carbons will just get wrecked and if they do break you are screwed.
  • Mac418s
    Mac418s Posts: 12
    Fair point...
  • diamonddog
    diamonddog Posts: 3,426
    Look at PX Model B's £150 - 1650gm without skewers, been running them for a year now and they have been fine.
    Or AL 30 Model C higher spoke count if you are a heavier rider. :)