Scott Carbon Comfort - advice needed

chris217
chris217 Posts: 218
edited July 2013 in Road buying advice
Ok, quick bike dilema ;

Currently have bought a Scott CR1 pro frameset and need to decide whether it will be comfortable enough as although it is less racy / stiff than the Addict and billed as a 'comfort set up' , i have read it is at the stiff end of the comfort zone ??1!! and actually the SDS shock dampint is not that effective / comfortable.

does anyone have a CR1 that they can offer some opinions re the above .....sorry i think a bit of ' Paralysis by over Analysis' need to get a second opinion.

cheers

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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Don't fall for the marketing bollox. Comfort is a product of bike setup and tyre choice/pressure. Not much else.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Depends what you mean by comfortable, 'enough'. My CR1 Pro is far more comfortable than the Trek Madone Aluminium that it replaced. Is it as comfortable as a mountain bike, no!

    Anyway, you've already bought it, why are you asking questions now? Get it build and get it ridden.
  • styxd
    styxd Posts: 3,234
    Imposter wrote:
    Don't fall for the marketing bollox. Comfort is a product of bike setup and tyre choice/pressure. Not much else.

    What about the lateral sitffness/vertical compliance school of thought? There's science behind that.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    styxd wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Don't fall for the marketing bollox. Comfort is a product of bike setup and tyre choice/pressure. Not much else.

    What about the lateral sitffness/vertical compliance school of thought? There's science behind that.

    My bike is a case in point, everything is identical, same wheels / tyres etc, the only thing changed was the frame, and the Scott is far more comfortable than the Trek.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    I have two Foils, one which I ride either on 23mm tubs at 140psi or 23mm clinchers at 115psi and the other on 25mm clinchers at 105psi. The difference in compliance is night and day.
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • chris217
    chris217 Posts: 218
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Chris217 wrote:
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!

    WTF, why?
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Chris217 wrote:
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!

    You have got to be joking. This has got to be the most ridiculous decision I've seen made on this forum ( and that's saying a lot).
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • styxd
    styxd Posts: 3,234
    Chris217 wrote:
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!

    A fine choice. Although if you can afford it, I'd go Ti. It provides a magical ride quality that no other material comes close to, plus they last a lifetime, so you'll be able to pass it onto your kids when the time comes.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    styxd wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Don't fall for the marketing bollox. Comfort is a product of bike setup and tyre choice/pressure. Not much else.

    What about the lateral sitffness/vertical compliance school of thought? There's science behind that.

    the what?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    styxd wrote:
    Chris217 wrote:
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!

    A fine choice. Although if you can afford it, I'd go Ti. It provides a magical ride quality that no other material comes close to, plus they last a lifetime, so you'll be able to pass it onto your kids when the time comes.

    not sure if serious...
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    styxd wrote:
    Chris217 wrote:
    thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!

    A fine choice. Although if you can afford it, I'd go Ti. It provides a magical ride quality that no other material comes close to, plus they last a lifetime, so you'll be able to pass it onto your kids when the time comes.

    Wow... where to start. I certainly won't be imbibing in the same kool-aid as you.
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • chris217
    chris217 Posts: 218
    " thanks guys, errm suffice to say i have enough info to go on.....probably could have worked this out meself ...i am sending the frame back. gonna go Steel !!!"

    nah , changed my mind already its one of these
    http://calfeedesign.com/products/bamboo/

    no seriously , Grill, Steady on old chap !!! thats a bit extreme ...bear in mind my decision is based in the fact i probably need a more durable & practical but also Comfortable frame and the Scott simply is not it.... ya Get me ...

    but i would actually love to keep the Scott but really trying to reduce the number of bikes not increase etc etc ...

    cheeers
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    No, actually it makes no sense. As has been mentioned, comfort is not so much a frame issue as a contact point and wheel/tyre/pressure issue. Steel breaks too, it's just that people are under the impressions that you can just bang it back into place and it will be fine (it won't). Practicality is the only reason to change frames and that's only if you need rack mounts (even then you only need them if you're doing heavy touring). If you're seriously looking at that bamboo frame you should realise that it won't be as damp as the CR1.

    But hey, it's your money- do what you want.
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    My CR1 seems to be more compliant but it doesn't have the 'zip' like the Canyon it replaced despite being 3/4lb lighter. Acceleration feels sluggish but it's demon climber due to the weight.

    Put it this way I feel less beatup after a long ride on the CR1 than the Canyon but this may be down to the bikefit I had.

    Has the same components mostly as the Canyon.
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    Just have a look at the Corsica ride in this months Cyclist mag, the reporter/rider couldn't praise the CR1 enough, I don't know how different the premium is to the SL and the Pro, whether it's just the components or it's a different frame completely.
  • chris217
    chris217 Posts: 218
    " But hey, it's your money- do what you want. " .....Grill, thanks for that.... if you are absolutely sure ....i will but promise to consult you the next time i decide to change ....
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    You'll be be back soon, most likely asking why your bamboo bike isn't as comfortable is you were led to believe...
    English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Well I have been amazed by the ride of my CR1-SL. I was prepared for it to be all marketing b0llocks, but it really is splendid.
  • chris217
    chris217 Posts: 218
    p.s.

    UPDATE - finally decided on the Bamboo bike, great frame but keep getting chased by bloody Pandas !!! which can be slightly off putting....

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Bamboo.jpg


    and one more thing ......its no where near as comfortable as it said in the marketing blurb. .....back to the drawing board ...lol

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