Undershorts and Doubling up.

shinsplint
shinsplint Posts: 565
edited June 2013 in Road general
No easy way of saying this... I have a permanently bruised ar5e, and have had for over a year :oops:

I've tried different saddles and find the best one for me is the Specialized Toupe.

Interested to know if anyone else suffers with this.

I have various shorts / bibshorts that I alternate between, and do find the ones with thicker padding more suitable, which got me on to thinking whether a second pad may help??

Anyone with the same problem here?

Some info :

I'm 6ft 1 and about 10st 7lbs. I ride almost daily. My frame is very stiff and aero which im sure doesnt help, but I have ordered a pair of 25c tyres and will be running lower PSI.

Any help appreciated !

Comments

  • Mickyg88
    Mickyg88 Posts: 289
    I recently changed to 25c tyres, running them at 95psi, the difference in comfort is amazing, see how you get on with yours before changing shorts, I was in the same predicament as you but ok now.
  • raymondo60
    raymondo60 Posts: 735
    I don't mind admitting that I'm a 'double up' guy; wear a pair of padded undershorts as well as a standard pair of bib short. Last year I went on a 90-mile ride with my mates in the South of France. We stopped at a freshwater lake for a 'dip' (it was about 90 degrees) and I was royally ridiculed when they all saw I was wearing two pair of padded shorts. Later that evening we were having a meal in Nice and all my buddies were complaing of 'sore bits'! My meal was most enjoyable!
    Raymondo

    "Let's just all be really careful out there folks!"
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    Try a different saddle?
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  • shinsplint
    shinsplint Posts: 565
    Cheers fellas :)
  • fatsmoker
    fatsmoker Posts: 585
    6 ft 1 and 10st 7. Crikey. You could put some weight on to pad your ar5e naturally.
  • shinsplint
    shinsplint Posts: 565
    fatsmoker wrote:
    6 ft 1 and 10st 7. Crikey. You could put some weight on to pad your ar5e naturally.

    Well that would help... but a bit of a drastic measure. I have the typical cyclist build.
  • fatsmoker
    fatsmoker Posts: 585
    Not so typical round these 'ere parts.
  • NewTTer
    NewTTer Posts: 463
    ShinSplint wrote:
    fatsmoker wrote:
    6 ft 1 and 10st 7. Crikey. You could put some weight on to pad your ar5e naturally.

    Well that would help... but a bit of a drastic measure. I have the typical cyclist build.


    Whats that then? for example compare Hoy, Wiggins and Cavendish
  • shinsplint
    shinsplint Posts: 565
    Very helpful :roll:
  • charliew87
    charliew87 Posts: 371
    I've started wearing padded shorts under my bib shorts recently and that's helped the situation.
    Canyon AL Ultimate 9.0
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    i always double up way more comfortable....and I'm a good 5st heavier!
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  • MartinB2444
    MartinB2444 Posts: 266
    It might be your bony rear end but are you confident with your bike fit?
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Can't help thinking there are a few people on here that need to try a few different saddles or take advantage of the Specialized BG fit or Selle Italia demo options.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,803
    Or buy a good pair of bibs with a thicker pad?
  • Gizmodo
    Gizmodo Posts: 1,928
    OK I accept that this might be an expensive option, but have you tried the Canyon VCLS 2 seat post?
    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ook-36763/

    As Canyon are an online only retailer, you could try it and return it if it didn't work perhaps? Just an idea.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    I'll double up for longer rides, particularly if I've been out 2 or 3 times in the week. As long as you have good fitting pads and no creases. Last year on the SDW randonee (100miles 13,000 foot climb off-road and muddy), I tripled up and had no soreness the next day apart from a few wear marks on the legs from the silicon strips.

    Wouldn't have worked if it was hot though, this year I think I'll just go double as I'm hoping for under 12 hours.
  • handful
    handful Posts: 920
    Have you tried changing your riding position? Have a read of this, for me it was a bit of a eureka moment after suffering saddle discomfort whilst trying out around half a dozen saddles. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/722724-Riding-Position-Discovery

    I'm still getting used to maintaining the 'straight back' posture but have found the angle of sit bones with the pelvis rotated forward greatly improved and more comfortable. also with this new position I find much less neck discomfort and am able to look up higher than before. Worth trying as a freebie!! :)
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  • NewTTer
    NewTTer Posts: 463
    ShinSplint wrote:
    Very helpful :roll:
    More helpful than people telling you to wear two pairs of shorts, that is NOT fixing the problem!
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    NewTTer wrote:
    ShinSplint wrote:
    fatsmoker wrote:
    6 ft 1 and 10st 7. Crikey. You could put some weight on to pad your ar5e naturally.

    Well that would help... but a bit of a drastic measure. I have the typical cyclist build.


    Whats that then? for example compare Hoy, Wiggins and Cavendish

    He did say TYPICAL, not every cyclist.
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    OK - doubling and tripling up is not the solution. I ride, along with lots of other people, quite a long way at weekends.

    I am not aware of anyone I know doubling up on shorts - even on rides of 1000km+. It is there as an emergency option I am sure, but I don't know anyone who has done it.

    When moving up distances, it does take some time to get position right. But sort the position, rather than trying to mask the issues by wearing multiple pads.

    The saddle and tyres do also make a huge difference as others have mentioned. But position makes the biggest difference of all. If you are suffering these issues, simply changing to fatter tyres will not instantly cure them - there is something fundamentally wrong with your position. (Changing saddles *might* cure the issues though)

    Once your position is right, then decent shorts, lube up, keep it clean and you will be fine for many, many miles.
  • shinsplint
    shinsplint Posts: 565
    Cheers guys, some very helpful stuff.

    FWIW i've been riding for 4 years now, and I have suffered from posture issues. I have tried various stem lengths, saddle positions etc.

    I've been reading through "handful's" link which makes a lot of sense. I think I need to make a conscious effort to keep my back straighter and pelvis more tilted forward. When i'm sat at work I tend to slouch. Despite making a conscious effort to hold better posture, I end up slouched again. Need to make more effort I think - its all relative to my bike position.

    and thanks Mike6. Maybe he doesnt know the meaning of the word "typical" :roll:
  • NewTTer
    NewTTer Posts: 463
    ShinSplint wrote:
    Cheers guys, some very helpful stuff.

    FWIW i've been riding for 4 years now, and I have suffered from posture issues. I have tried various stem lengths, saddle positions etc.

    I've been reading through "handful's" link which makes a lot of sense. I think I need to make a conscious effort to keep my back straighter and pelvis more tilted forward. When i'm sat at work I tend to slouch. Despite making a conscious effort to hold better posture, I end up slouched again. Need to make more effort I think - its all relative to my bike position.

    and thanks Mike6. Maybe he doesnt know the meaning of the word "typical" :roll:
    Or maybe I am not just a compkete idiot!
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    One thing to add - some canesten thrush cream might be worth a go as its so easy to get infection in the sweaty bits. If you think your arse is more tender than it should be then you might have an infection. Its good at soothing soreness too and the active ingredient wont do you any harm if you haven't got an infection.
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    http://111harleystreet.com/body/legs/buttocks-implants/

    but if that doesnt take your fancy, i'd recommend a different saddle, you'd expect a bit of bedding in time but not a year!
    www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    diy wrote:
    I'll double up for longer rides, particularly if I've been out 2 or 3 times in the week. As long as you have good fitting pads and no creases. Last year on the SDW randonee (100miles 13,000 foot climb off-road and muddy), I tripled up and had no soreness the next day apart from a few wear marks on the legs from the silicon strips.

    Wouldn't have worked if it was hot though, this year I think I'll just go double as I'm hoping for under 12 hours.

    Try riding it singlespeed CX like I did a couple of years ago, you most of the day out the saddle, so little time to sit down. Likewise, you can't sit down on the descents either because of the jackhammer under your butt. Legs hurt like hell by the time we got to Eastbourne but I could sit comfortably on the bike next day 8)
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