sportive geometry bikes, am i missing any?

rOcKeTdOg
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looking for long ride comfort rather than out and out race, but do like a bit of in the drops action so other than
Trek Domane
Giant Defy
Merida Ride
Cube Agree
Spesh Roubaix
Planet X RT58
what others are out there?
Trek Domane
Giant Defy
Merida Ride
Cube Agree
Spesh Roubaix
Planet X RT58
what others are out there?
pain is temporary,glory is forever
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Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.0
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Scott CR1
Spesh Secteur (Alu Roubaix)
Trek Madone is fairly relaxed
Aren't Bianchi C2Cs relaxed as well?
I was looking at Canyons the other day and was surprised be the head tube length
Cervelo R series
The list is huge.Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
Sun - Cervelo R3
Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX0 -
Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
not after a short head tube, nose on the stem or a million headset spacer special just to bring the bars up style though, sportive geometry is shorter TT, longer HT & wheelbase, so no, not all road bikes are the samepain is temporary,glory is forever0 -
rOcKeTdOg wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
not after a short head tube, nose on the stem or a million headset spacer special just to bring the bars up style though, sportive geometry is shorter TT, longer HT & wheelbase, so no, not all road bikes are the same
Why bother asking advice then?I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0 -
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Why bother asking advice then?pain is temporary,glory is forever0
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rOcKeTdOg wrote:Why bother asking advice then?
So Asprillas advice doesn't count then? I thought it was quite helpful. TBH, if you all you can be bothered to do is spend 10 minutes finding a random small selection before asking the forum to do the bulk of your research for you, you can hardly expect that positive a response
Got to say, I admire your post rate!Faster than a tent.......0 -
rOcKeTdOg wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
not after a short head tube, nose on the stem or a million headset spacer special just to bring the bars up style though, sportive geometry is shorter TT, longer HT & wheelbase, so no, not all road bikes are the same
Nowadays short head tubes are not so common at all, so Id say the choice is vast for you.0 -
Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
...anyway, you should definitely include Focus Izalco Ergoride into the list.
http://www.focus-bikes.com/int/en/bikes ... g30-g.html
It's been mentioned already, but the Giant Defy .... also consider the Sensa Giulia.
http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/b ... -2013.html
All have relatively short toptubes & longer headtubes.
You could quite easily avoid a stack of spacers with either of those (especially the Ergoride). Also think about shallow drop bars, being on the drops is much more comfortable and easier on the neck/back.0 -
rOcKeTdOg wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
not after a short head tube, nose on the stem or a million headset spacer special just to bring the bars up style though, sportive geometry is shorter TT, longer HT & wheelbase, so no, not all road bikes are the same
Looks like someone bought into all the marketing... :roll:English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0 -
Grill wrote:rOcKeTdOg wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
not after a short head tube, nose on the stem or a million headset spacer special just to bring the bars up style though, sportive geometry is shorter TT, longer HT & wheelbase, so no, not all road bikes are the same
Looks like someone bought into all the marketing... :roll:
Who, you mean you with all your Scotts??0 -
It's only because I can't afford Storcks.English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0
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You could probably just flip the stem & mess with spacers/bars on many road bikes and have a similar ride as a result.
But how about a Look 566 anyway?'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
Its best not to get hung up on the sportive theme. I started looking at these but in the end got a Giant TCR over the 'Sportive' Defy because it felt more comfortable to ride.0
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Brassknocker wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
Actually - it is perfectly correct. Leaving aside the debatable issue of 'sportive geometry' for a moment, it is eminently possible to ride a sportive on any road bike - or indeed any type of bike. Sportives are, after all, just road rides. It is possible to achieve the position he appears to favour on any bike - the only thing left to consider if whether he has too many spacers or not, which is an aesthetic issue, not a practical one. So yes, it was helpful - and practical.
Ironically, the Sensa you link to has near identical geo to my Tarmac (marketed as a race bike).0 -
Imposter wrote:Brassknocker wrote:Imposter wrote:Just about any road bike on the market will do the job for you - not just the ones you've listed.
Actually - it is perfectly correct. Leaving aside the debatable issue of 'sportive geometry' for a moment, it is eminently possible to ride a sportive on any road bike - or indeed any type of bike. Sportives are, after all, just road rides. It is possible to achieve the position he appears to favour on any bike - the only thing left to consider if whether he has too many spacers or not, which is an aesthetic issue, not a practical one. So yes, it was helpful - and practical.
Ironically, the Sensa you link to has near identical geo to my Tarmac (marketed as a race bike).
I agree although there is nothing at all wrong with looking for suitable bike for sportives. I know becauce I started to do more distance & less speed in recent years. I took my Look (565 which is the same geometry as the 585) bike, put the spacer below the stem rather than above, flipped the stem (15 degrees - 100mm) and swapped to some wider & more shallow/compact bars. I also use 25mm tyres. The result is slightly slower but very much more comfortable bike. Over distance I actually think its faster because I use ther drops much more, even when tired. The ride position now feels very similar to my old winter trainer which is a sportive bike. In effect I'm slightly less stetched out and the front is higher - isn't that what a sportive bike offers? I'd look at the geometry of each bike, whether it be labelled sportive or not.'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
passout wrote:I'd look at the geometry of each bike, whether it be labelled sportive or not.
And, additionally, look at your own geometry. If you have short legs and a long torso, then a standard 'racy' frame, will actually give you a Sportive position by default whereas a specific Sportive geometry might see you too upright.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rolf F wrote:passout wrote:I'd look at the geometry of each bike, whether it be labelled sportive or not.
And, additionally, look at your own geometry. If you have short legs and a long torso, then a standard 'racy' frame, will actually give you a Sportive position by default whereas a specific Sportive geometry might see you too upright.
Almost Rolf, but if like me you have matching short arms to go with those short legs and a resulting saddle to bar drop of only 30mm then you need (relatively) long top tube, long head tube, short seat tube.
I agree with others though, sort your contact points out and THEN geometry to suit (regardless of marketing description)Coach H. (Dont ask me for training advice - 'It's not about the bike')0