Frame Advice

chris_bass
chris_bass Posts: 4,913
edited May 2013 in Road buying advice
I'm looking to get a new frame as I have slowly been upgrading the components on my bike and the frame is now the worst part! but don't really know too much about them!

Does anyone know if either of these are any good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/forme-by-kinesis-axe-edge-sport-58cm-carbon-road-frame-and-fork-carbon-post-pin-/130769529783?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Fragrances_Women_s_Fragrances_PP&hash=item1e7278abb7#ht_533wt_1182

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-QACHIA-C8-0-Carbon-Road-Frame-set-Size-57cm-UD-Carbon-Red-/181128943933?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Fragrances_Women_s_Fragrances_PP&hash=item2a2c20593d#ht_1428wt_1182

(i have no idea why the links contain UK_Health_Beauty_Fragrances_Women_s_Fragrances in the address?!)

and how they would comapre to similar priced ribble or planet-x frames?
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