Interesting David Walsh Interview

DeadCalm

I was going to add this to the Sky and David Walsh thread but decided that was probably best left alone.

http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/24/david-walsh-interview2/

danlikesbikes

Cheers for posting is quite a good read.

cogidubnus

Enjoyed reading that. I much prefer Walsh's attitude to that of Kimmage

danlikesbikes

Have to say that he seems rather thorough at some things like asking for a list of all the medical kit what it does etc. Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does & guess it makes sense and the team have nothing to hide.

bompington

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Guess I've never really thought what an entrenched journalist does

Haha..... I think you'll find that Walsh is an embedded journalist, it's Kimmage who is the entrenched one...

No_Ta_Doctor

bompington wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Guess I've never really thought what an entrenched journalist does

Haha..... I think you'll find that Walsh is an embedded journalist, it's Kimmage who is the entrenched one...

Nicely put!

danlikesbikes

bompington wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Guess I've never really thought what an entrenched journalist does

Haha..... I think you'll find that Walsh is an embedded journalist, it's Kimmage who is the entrenched one...

Thank you for the correction, think the thought behind my statement still stands.

Richmond Racer

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Have to say that he seems rather thorough at some things like asking for a list of all the medical kit what it does etc. Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does & guess it makes sense and the team have nothing to hide.

Well, in itself, I wonder what it would actually prove - assuming that all medicines are legal etc. If they are, what does it actually reveal?

danlikesbikes

I think its more about him asking more than what he will see when/if given the green light as you have to assume that everything is legal or that a team would be pretty stupid to show him their illegal stash.

I'm sure that if he spends enough time with the team he will not just be asking questions of riders/staff in a typical interview type scenario. But will be going over everything (he is allowed access too) that the team do.

Richmond Racer

Danlikesbikes wrote:

I think its more about him asking more than what he will see when/if given the green light as you have to assume that everything is legal or that a team would be pretty stupid to show him their illegal stash.

I'm sure that if he spends enough time with the team he will not just be asking questions of riders/staff in a typical interview type scenario. But will be going over everything (he is allowed access too) that the team do.

Well, re-reading his first ST article on the invite from Brailsford, he wrote that when they met to discuss the latter's offer/invite, Brailsford said Walsh would have access to riders and staff at any time to ask any questions - riders, back room staff, coaches, docs, anyone. That he could join them on any camps and at any races - timing would be left up to Walsh. That if he saw, say, a team doc with a bag, he could follow the doc back to his room, knock on the door and ask to see the contents of the bag. Said that if a hotel was full where the team was staying, they would find room for him somehow, and that the docs had all agreed that Walsh could room with one of them, if it came to it.

Sounds pretty open access to me.

danlikesbikes

Richmond Racer wrote:

Well, reading his first ST article on the invite from Brailsford, he wrote that when they met to discuss the latter's offer/invite, Brailsford said Walsh would have access to all staff at any time to ask any questions - riders, back room staff, docs, anyone. That he could join them on any camps and at any races - when and where would be left up to Walsh. That if he saw, say, a team doc with a bag, he could follow the doc back to his room, knock on the door and ask to see the contents of the bag. Said that if a hotel was full where the team was staying, they would find room for him, and that the docs had all agreed that Walsh could room with one of them, if it came to it.

Sounds pretty open access to me.

I've not read his first article, nor suggested that it was not open access. Was just commenting that I have only ever thought of it in terms of a journalist sets up an interview, or goes off to interview a team whilst they are away training. Never really consider how thorough journalists are when spending time with teams as per my original comment 'Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does'

Richmond Racer

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Well, reading his first ST article on the invite from Brailsford, he wrote that when they met to discuss the latter's offer/invite, Brailsford said Walsh would have access to all staff at any time to ask any questions - riders, back room staff, docs, anyone. That he could join them on any camps and at any races - when and where would be left up to Walsh. That if he saw, say, a team doc with a bag, he could follow the doc back to his room, knock on the door and ask to see the contents of the bag. Said that if a hotel was full where the team was staying, they would find room for him, and that the docs had all agreed that Walsh could room with one of them, if it came to it.

Sounds pretty open access to me.

I've not read his first article, nor suggested that it was not open access. Was just commenting that I have only ever thought of it in terms of a journalist sets up an interview, or goes off to interview a team whilst they are away training. Never really consider how thorough journalists are when spending time with teams as per my original comment 'Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does'

I know you weren't! I'm just on one today

Have you ever read this article by Lionel Birnie from his time embedded with Sky during the 2011 Dauphine?

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/a ... magic-bus/

danlikesbikes

Richmond Racer wrote:

I know you weren't! I'm just on one today

Have you ever read this article by Lionel Birnie from his time embedded with Sky during the 2011 Dauphine?

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/a ... magic-bus/

Appreciate the heads up, not feeling too good today so sorry if I sounded a bit off. Just going to read it now thanks!

shinyhelmut

Another interview;

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2014/01/david-walsh/

whiteboytrash

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Have to say that he seems rather thorough at some things like asking for a list of all the medical kit what it does etc. Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does & guess it makes sense and the team have nothing to hide.

Problem is Walsh said he'd ask to see the medical kit in May.

Never saw any follow up on this.

Maybe they wouldn't show him? :roll:

RichN95.

whiteboytrash wrote:

Problem is Walsh said he'd ask to see the medical kit in May.

Never saw any follow up on this.

Maybe they wouldn't show him? :roll:

If he'd asked and they had refused, he would have mentioned it. A list of vitamins and aspirins doesn't make an interesting story though. He asked about TUEs though - two in 18 months.

Just because something isn't reported, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Richmond Racer

ShinyHelmut wrote:

Another interview;

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2014/01/david-walsh/

Very good interview.

Kimmage could learn a lesson or two from Walsh about how to conduct himself, especially when it comes to handling an invite to slag off the other one.

whiteboytrash

RichN95 wrote:

whiteboytrash wrote:

Problem is Walsh said he'd ask to see the medical kit in May.

Never saw any follow up on this.

Maybe they wouldn't show him? :roll:

Just because something isn't reported, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I couldn't agree more

mike6

RichN95 wrote:

whiteboytrash wrote:

Problem is Walsh said he'd ask to see the medical kit in May.

Never saw any follow up on this.

Maybe they wouldn't show him? :roll:

If he'd asked and they had refused, he would have mentioned it. A list of vitamins and aspirins doesn't make an interesting story though. He asked about TUEs though - two in 18 months.

Just because something isn't reported, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Here we go again. Walsh interview concerning Sky? They must be doping. Give me strength. :roll: :roll: :roll:

whiteboytrash

Richmond Racer wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Well, reading his first ST article on the invite from Brailsford, he wrote that when they met to discuss the latter's offer/invite, Brailsford said Walsh would have access to all staff at any time to ask any questions - riders, back room staff, docs, anyone. That he could join them on any camps and at any races - when and where would be left up to Walsh. That if he saw, say, a team doc with a bag, he could follow the doc back to his room, knock on the door and ask to see the contents of the bag. Said that if a hotel was full where the team was staying, they would find room for him, and that the docs had all agreed that Walsh could room with one of them, if it came to it.

Sounds pretty open access to me.

I've not read his first article, nor suggested that it was not open access. Was just commenting that I have only ever thought of it in terms of a journalist sets up an interview, or goes off to interview a team whilst they are away training. Never really consider how thorough journalists are when spending time with teams as per my original comment 'Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does'

I know you weren't! I'm just on one today

Have you ever read this article by Lionel

Birnie from his time embedded with Sky during the 2011 Dauphine?

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/a ... magic-bus/

Good article. This caught my eye:

Brian Cookson, president of British Cycling and a board member of Tour Racing Limited, the company that owns Team Sky.

I assume he resigned from this position?

There's appears to be multiple conflicts going in with those appointments.

RichN95.

whiteboytrash wrote:

Good article. This caught my eye:

Brian Cookson, president of British Cycling and a board member of Tour Racing Limited, the company that owns Team Sky.

I assume he resigned from this position?

There's appears to be multiple conflicts going in with those appointments.

It's a little wrong. He was only on their Operating Board to represent the interests of British Cycling (due to their shared resources). He wasn't a director.

And yes he did stepped down from that when he announced his candidature for UCI President.

tailwindhome

whiteboytrash wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Well, reading his first ST article on the invite from Brailsford, he wrote that when they met to discuss the latter's offer/invite, Brailsford said Walsh would have access to all staff at any time to ask any questions - riders, back room staff, docs, anyone. That he could join them on any camps and at any races - when and where would be left up to Walsh. That if he saw, say, a team doc with a bag, he could follow the doc back to his room, knock on the door and ask to see the contents of the bag. Said that if a hotel was full where the team was staying, they would find room for him, and that the docs had all agreed that Walsh could room with one of them, if it came to it.

Sounds pretty open access to me.

I've not read his first article, nor suggested that it was not open access. Was just commenting that I have only ever thought of it in terms of a journalist sets up an interview, or goes off to interview a team whilst they are away training. Never really consider how thorough journalists are when spending time with teams as per my original comment 'Guess I've never really thought what an embedded journalist does'

I know you weren't! I'm just on one today

Have you ever read this article by Lionel

Birnie from his time embedded with Sky during the 2011 Dauphine?

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/a ... magic-bus/

Good article. This caught my eye:

Brian Cookson, president of British Cycling and a board member of Tour Racing Limited, the company that owns Team Sky.

I assume he resigned from this position?

There's appears to be multiple conflicts going in with those appointments.

IIRC the president of British Cycling has the seat on the board - not Cookson.