Road wheels with discs

differentstrokes87
differentstrokes87 Posts: 140
edited April 2013 in Road buying advice
I'm looking for some road wheels that are compatible with discs. I'm currently running my CX bike with the On One wheels it came with and GP4000s.

I'd much rather have a set for the road and a set for the mucky stuff, it'll save on the tedious jobs of swapping tyres back and forth and means I'll get the most use out of the bike.

Can anyone recommend something preferably around the £500 price tag? Oh and clinchers if possible, I've no experience of tubs.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    Get them built for you...
    Novatec 711/712 disc hubs 32 holes (from Ebay); Open PRO CD or Velocity A 23 non machined rims and some double butted spokes. Total cost less than 300 pounds including the build. I have done a few of these, including a set for myself and they are brilliant. Those rims will also take tyres up to 35 mm, so no need for two sets... I have done all sorts of horrible things to my Open PRO CD on 32 mm tyres, with the aim of wrecking them and they are still in one piece
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  • Thanks for that, didn't consider having them built.

    I've been searching for a set of stock wheels but had no luck.

    Can you suggest anywhere particular to look at having them built?
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    Thanks for that, didn't consider having them built.

    I've been searching for a set of stock wheels but had no luck.

    Can you suggest anywhere particular to look at having them built?

    If you are in London I can build them for you, otherwise speak to someone local... there are good builders dotted around the country and there are also old fashioned LBShops who build decent wheels. We can really thank Mavic and Shimano for the handbuilt renaissance... :mrgreen:
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  • Thanks for the advice.

    I'm located in the North East in Sunderland, once I get on the laptop I'll look into any builders closer to me although paying for them to be shipped isn't a problem.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    I seem to recall there is a good LBS in the area who build wheels with good feedback... can't remember the name... but if you google it, it will pop up.
    The 711/12 hubs are difficult to source in the UK, best to just get them on Ebay... there is a guy... IAN something who constantly has a supply... I have built many of those he sells and they are genuine Novatec and not dodgy stuff that hasn't passed QC. Just takes three weeks to get them... but at that price...
    All the rest is ready available... Open PRO are mainstream and Velocity rims are distributed in the UK by Brick Lane Bikes, same as H plus Son Archetype, another option
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  • M Steel by any chance?
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    M Steel by any chance?

    does not ring a bell
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  • 2oldnslow
    2oldnslow Posts: 313
    Apologies for the slight thread hi-jack but (for reasons I won't bore you with) I've got a pair of used but good condition (with totally unmarked brake tracks as I ran them as disc wheels), Stans Alpha 340 32H rims in. Would they be a good candidate to build on those Novatec hubs with say Sapim CX Rays ?

    I'm looking to buy a disc braked sportive type bike and it seems they might make a decent set of fine weather wheels.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    2oldnslow wrote:
    Apologies for the slight thread hi-jack but (for reasons I won't bore you with) I've got a pair of used but good condition (with totally unmarked brake tracks as I ran them as disc wheels), Stans Alpha 340 32H rims in. Would they be a good candidate to build on those Novatec hubs with say Sapim CX Rays ?

    I'm looking to buy a disc braked sportive type bike and it seems they might make a decent set of fine weather wheels.

    You have to check if your sportive bikes has 135 mm rear dropouts.
    Personally I would use a more substantial spoke (and cheaper), but yes, why not...
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  • 2oldnslow
    2oldnslow Posts: 313
    Whichever I go for it will be 135mm OLD at the back. So without being "controversial" are CX-Rays overated, just not appropriate for this application or just expensive. If not them what would be your recommendation Ugo ?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,301
    2oldnslow wrote:
    Whichever I go for it will be 135mm OLD at the back. So without being "controversial" are CX-Rays overated, just not appropriate for this application or just expensive. If not them what would be your recommendation Ugo ?

    Yes, they are overrated and expensive and if used in combination with shallow rims and discs frankly pointless.
    I have ACI double butted on mine, a wopping 100 grams heavier for the set and a staggering 120 pounds cheaper
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  • 2oldnslow
    2oldnslow Posts: 313
    Put like that seems a bit of a no brainer :)

    The wheel builder in my LBS uses mostly DT Swiss spokes so I guess regular DT Swiss Competion would make sense thank you very much indeed.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I would keep the existing wheels for road use and get some new ones built with Stans Crest rims for offroad - run them tubeless for better comfort and grip. Yup, Novatev 711/712 hubs off ebay at £90/pr. Velocity A23s tubeless are a PITA in comparison as you have to build-up the rim bed and use expensive rim strips.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • 2oldnslow
    2oldnslow Posts: 313
    Thanks Monty

    I've actually got a set of 26" Crest rims on some generic hubs on my Peregrine at the moment and they have held up very well. Currently running them tubed but previously ran the 340's very successfully (mostly on road) tubeless at about 45 psi using Schwalbe Marathon Extreme folding tyres and they run a lot better than some might think and are of course very very comfortable. So yes thanks again I think I'll get a pair of those Novatecs and build something along the lines you suggest although I might investigate the new Iron Cross rims.
  • Would the H plus Son Archetype on the Novatec hubs make for a good road wheel?
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  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Ugo/Paolo built me exactly that wheelset for my cross bike. I have run them with Michelin Muds, Lithion 2s (23) and currently have Gatorskin 28s on them. Great wheelset.
  • I'd be running them on GP4000s (25c)

    Can you remember the total price for the build?
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