De Panne 2013 **SPOILERS**

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    inkyfingers wrote:
    OPQS are going to have to do more than win De Panne to rescue their classics season.

    Careful now. Frenchie doesn't like that sort of talk.
    DeadCalm wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    GC

    Kristoff
    Demare @ 8s
    Cav @9s
    Chavanel @10s
    Vatomme @ 10s

    Looks good for Chavanel....
    You sure
    6. Niki TERPSTRA, Omega Pharma-Quick Step, at :10

    I thought Niki could TT.
    Chavanel took 18 seconds out of Terpstra in the TT last year.

    The times in my quotes were the only ones ES showed on their graphic. No idea what everyone else was on.
    Or even if there are any other TTers in the field
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    Anyone else think Cav might surprise a few people in the TT?
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Anyone else think Cav might surprise a few people in the TT?

    Think this is probably a bit long for him. As you'd expect, he's better in the short sharp prologue TTs where it's all about bike handling and sprinting out of corners.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    Sagan could have won this if he'd stayed.

    Tough 3 weeks ahead though.
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  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Think this is probably a bit long for him. As you'd expect, he's better in the short sharp prologue TTs where it's all about bike handling and sprinting out of corners.
    I think Cav needs to be able to see a finish line and have several other world class sprinters breathing down the back of his neck to perform at his best.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Graeme_S wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Think this is probably a bit long for him. As you'd expect, he's better in the short sharp prologue TTs where it's all about bike handling and sprinting out of corners.
    I think Cav needs to be able to see a finish line and have several other world class sprinters breathing down the back of his neck to perform at his best.

    He's won short prologues before, including at Romandie. Add in his track palmares and his TTT performances and its clear that he's not quite the one trick pony that some make out.

    He won't do anything today though, may not even ride it.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Sagan could have won this if he'd stayed.

    Wishful thinking.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,326
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Think this is probably a bit long for him. As you'd expect, he's better in the short sharp prologue TTs where it's all about bike handling and sprinting out of corners.
    I think Cav needs to be able to see a finish line and have several other world class sprinters breathing down the back of his neck to perform at his best.

    He's won short prologues before, including at Romandie. Add in his track palmares and his TTT performances and its clear that he's not quite the one trick pony that some make out.

    He won't do anything today though, may not even ride it.

    For some reason I thought it was quite a bit shorter than it actually is. D'Oh.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Think this is probably a bit long for him. As you'd expect, he's better in the short sharp prologue TTs where it's all about bike handling and sprinting out of corners.
    I think Cav needs to be able to see a finish line and have several other world class sprinters breathing down the back of his neck to perform at his best.

    He's won short prologues before, including at Romandie. Add in his track palmares and his TTT performances and its clear that he's not quite the one trick pony that some make out.

    He won't do anything today though, may not even ride it.

    For some reason I thought it was quite a bit shorter than it actually is. D'Oh.

    It's probably a bit too long for such a short race, but then you mess with such a historic format at your peril.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    frenchfighter wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Sagan could have won this if he'd stayed.

    Wishful thinking.

    You think so?

    Let's assume Chavanel is the man and would have started for talk sake 15s down*. Do you think Sagan couldn't hold him off on the TT?


    *Obviously I'm assuming yesterday would have played out differently and Sagan would have finished in the bonus seconds.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I assumed you were talking of the TT in and of itself rather than the GC.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    frenchfighter wrote:
    I assumed you were talking of the TT in and of itself rather than the GC.


    LOL. He's good........but he's not that good.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Sagan beat Cancellara in the 7.3Km TdS prologue last year, albeit that had a climb in the middle. With some bonus seconds in the sprints he'd have had a chance of beating Chavanel I think

    As Frenchie says though, it's wishful thinking as he's not here. He has bigger fish to fry.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Chavanel is four times Nat TT Champ plus he won this TT last year.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    General Classification after Stage 3a
    NOR 1 KRISTOFF, Alexander (KATUSHA) 12:16:16
    FRA 2 DEMARE, Arnaud (FDJ) + 4
    GBR 3 CAVENDISH, Mark (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP) + 9
    FRA 4 CHAVANEL, Sylvain (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP) + 10
    BEL 5 VANTOMME, Maxime (CRELAN - EUPHONY)
    NED 6 TERPSTRA, Niki (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP)
    ITA 7 CIMOLAI, Davide (LAMPRE-MERIDA) + 15
    FRA 8 LE BON, Johan (FDJ) + 18
    ITA 9 GATTO, Oscar (VINI FANTINI - SELLE ITALIA)
    BEL 10 PLANCKAERT, Baptiste (CRELAN - EUPHONY) + 19
    ITA 11 COLBRELLI, Sonny (BARDIANI VALVOLE - CSF INOX)
    BEL 12 VAN ASBROECK, Tom (TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN - BALOISE)
    GER 13 ARNDT, Nikias (TEAM ARGOS-SHIMANO)
    FRA 14 BOUCHER, David (FDJ)
    SLO 15 JARC, Blaz (TEAM NETAPP - ENDURA)
    BEL 16 VANLANDSCHOOT, James (ACCENT JOBS - WANTY)
    ITA 17 COLEDAN, Marco (BARDIANI VALVOLE - CSF INOX)
    BEL 18 DE HAES, Kenny (LOTTO BELISOL) + 24
    BEL 19 HOVELYNCK, Kurt (CRELAN - EUPHONY)
    BEL 20 SALOMEIN, Jarl (TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN - BALOISE) + 27
    ITA 21 FAVILLI, Elia (LAMPRE-MERIDA)
    BEL 22 VAN KEIRSBULCK, Guillaume (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP)
    NED 23 DUMOULIN, Tom (TEAM ARGOS-SHIMANO)
    BEL 24 VAN HOECKE, Gijs (TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN - BALOISE)
    ITA 25 DA DALTO, Mauro (CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING)
    GER 26 CIOLEK, Gerald (MTN - QHUBEKA)
    NED 27 WESTRA, Lieuwe (VACANSOLEIL-DCM)
    ITA 28 DE NEGRI, Pier Paolo (VINI FANTINI - SELLE ITALIA)
    AUS 29 DURBRIDGE, Luke (ORICA GREENEDGE)
    FRA 30 JEROME, Vincent (TEAM EUROPCAR)
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... ubaix.html
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    Chavanel under way.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    Must only be a minute gap - your leaders underway.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited March 2013
    What is the best time so far?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    edited March 2013
    Terpstra 2nd quickest at the split
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    18'21"

    Vorobyev
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    Chava best time at the split

    10s up on the leader
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    The split times

    Chava
    Vorobyev(who?) @9s
    Terpstra 12s
    Le Bon 13s
    Westra 13s
    Durbridge 13s
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Yeah, who is Voro?!
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,111
    The reigning World U23 TT Champion, no? Neo-pro at Katusha.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    Kristoff 13.6s behind Chava
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Lol at 3.49 in this video from 3a, check out the Lampre guy get hit:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NEau_7RADg
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    GC as it stands

    Chava
    Kristoff @3"
    Terpstra @12"
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    andyp wrote:
    The reigning World U23 TT Champion, no? Neo-pro at Katusha.

    Good knowledge.
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Kristoff 13.6s behind Chava

    Come of Chavanel, I just hope he has long overshoes on...
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,938
    That may reflect Terpstra finish time so he should move up when Kristoff finishes.....I think....
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