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housemunkey
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Okay so I'm attempting (failing) to decide on the bits and bobs for a bday present wheel build. Rims and spokes are all sorted, archetype and cx-rays. What I can't decide on are the hubs. Spoke count is 20/24 so that rules out any shimano offerings. I've been drawn to the hope pro 3's, good colours, good noisey freehub and good quality at a reasonable price. Now my issue is (and I know I'll get flamed for it) they are slightly on the heavier side.
Lets get some of the standard responses out of the way, I know you can't have everything, go light and you lose durability. I also know that weight at the hub makes a lot less difference than weight at the rim. I get all that.
What i'd like to know are any sensible options for slightly lighter hubs. Almost every other option is going to add price I know. I had been eyeing up Goldtec hubs. Also on the list would be Chris King (little more high maintenance?) and I have also looked at Tune (some durability issues perhaps). What are peoples thoughts? Cheers guys.
Lets get some of the standard responses out of the way, I know you can't have everything, go light and you lose durability. I also know that weight at the hub makes a lot less difference than weight at the rim. I get all that.
What i'd like to know are any sensible options for slightly lighter hubs. Almost every other option is going to add price I know. I had been eyeing up Goldtec hubs. Also on the list would be Chris King (little more high maintenance?) and I have also looked at Tune (some durability issues perhaps). What are peoples thoughts? Cheers guys.
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Yes the rear freehub is noisy, much the same as nearly all other high quality hubs. They do offer pretty instant and solid engagment, and when you hit the gas on a steep hill it becomes apparent that you are on are good quality product. Plus I find it great for alerting walkers/pedestrians..
The freehub body splines are made very soft alloy that scores quite easily.making cassette removal somewhat of a chore. This has no ill effects on performance however. I believe a steel freehub body is available, but this would be much heavier. I did notice some seal drag that quickly dissapears once underway, it only seems to happen if they have gone unused for a couple of weeks. The hubs do seem incredibly well sealed against the elements. and have seen me through a whole winter without needing any attention...I guess it's a legacy of hope's MTB roots.
Hope make some absolutely lovely straight pull 20h front 24h rear hubs that woud rival anything produced in the states, but they refuse to sell them separately...I would have bought some of these in a heartbeat...
I find this policy quite difficult to understand especially so in this ecomomic climate????.
Finally don't buy the gold colour...they look great on hope's website...but they clash with everything..
Maybe if I asked hope nicely, they would be kind enough to send me on a pair of silver hub shells :?:
Spokes weigh very little (relative to overall build) and you open up your hub options if you go for more drillings.
PMP?
DT?
Extralite?
Alchemy?
Can't go wrong with Hope in my opinion though.
Are Hope hubs not Campagnolo compatible then?
Chris Kings certainly aren't high maintenance but you can't service them yourself unless you buy the freehub tool. For the price the Hopes are very hard to beat.
Personally I just went with DA7900, durable, serviceable, good geometry, reasonable weight, weather proof and unlike all the really light options they have a freehub body that won't get chewed to bits.
Don't know about the Mack hubs but certainly everything else listed here is quality (no mention of Royce yet though).
10 speed only. Hopefully Shimano's move to 11sp will encourage Hope to make some 11sp Campag hubs
With regards to the spoke count, I might consider 28 on the back if I go tune just incase a spoke was to go I'll have a better chance of being able to ride it home.
I guess I should have said before that tartiness has its place on my list of objectives. I'm not interested in spending my money on something I don't really like the look of. So that limits the choices a little to something I can get in red and preferably something with a bit of noise (hence no shimano).
I'm on 10 speed shimano so no worries about hope not doing 11spd campy. It feels like its moving towards being between hope and tune. I wish I was better at making decisions!!!
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I have Chris King with these rims for what its worth, had a 40kph crash recently, wheels fine 24/28 spoke count.
Overpriced and overrated. Wear out quickly too.
Tune hubs are simple 2 x 5mm hex keys, in 3 and a half years I've never had to even open them up though.
Mine weighted in at 1400 a set too
Been running them for ages and love them. I can't see how you can argue they wear out faster unless you ride sub standard (read cheap) bearings and races.
anything along the lines of Ceramic Speed or the new Chris King ceramics will last you an age.
I don't see this as a wheelset you'll drag through winter so if ceramic is an option (Tune run a ceramic hybrid) then go for it.