got some new wheels. Handbuilts.

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  • ricky1980
    ricky1980 Posts: 891
    smidsy wrote:
    @ricky1980 - the nipples are fine you should have totally ordered totally black tyres...totally :-)

    well my frame has a red stripes as a theme, so wanted the wheels to match...still waiting for the chinese to paint it so hopefully when i get the frame and finish building my bike, i will put some pics up in the "show-off" section

    tho i need to realign the front tyre, the michelin text is skewed, it's annoying me every time i see it
    Road - Cannondale CAAD 8 - 7.8kg
    Road - Chinese Carbon Diablo - 6.4kg
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    ricky1980 wrote:
    these are Paolo's effort for me with some super lightweight Novatec hubs & CX ray spokes

    Paolo is a great guy :) I totally should have order some black or red nipples...

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    I did have black nipples, but brass... Did I not try to convince you to go for brass instead of the alloy nipples you brought in? Was I drunk? :roll:
    Turn the front QR the correct way round... :wink:
    left the forum March 2023
  • ricky1980
    ricky1980 Posts: 891
    yep should have listened to you and should have also listened to you and gone down the route of DT competition spokes instead >.< I still get the heebie jeebies when i think about how expensive they are!
    Road - Cannondale CAAD 8 - 7.8kg
    Road - Chinese Carbon Diablo - 6.4kg
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Be warned; the break track does not stay black for very long.
    Pegoretti
    Colnago
    Cervelo
    Campagnolo
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    on-yer-bike wrote:
    Be warned; the break track does not stay black for very long.

    Indeed, it is a balance between staying alive and keeping the track black... :mrgreen:
    Having clean pads and softer ones helps preserving the colour a bit longer, but ultimately a rim is sacrificial and trying to preserve it is OCD
    left the forum March 2023
  • iPip
    iPip Posts: 90
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Turn the front QR the correct way round... :wink:
    Which one, the rear? All of mine have always had the QR on the non-drive side because that's how they arrived. Is there a right way or have I just misunderstood your comment?
    Regards
    Pip

    Cube Agree GTC Pro
    Boardman Hybrid Comp
    Voodoo Bantu
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    on-yer-bike wrote:
    Be warned; the break track does not stay black for very long.

    Interesting that, my mavic exalith rims are starting to fade slightly after 7000 km's
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    this is an inevitability, the brake track fading in colour. i'm putting swisstops on to replace the outgoing pads, because of the weather and from what i've heard the swisstops are a softer compound, but offer more braking power. they will probably mark the rims, but i'd rather be safe than dead with nice wheels!. any how 2 days in and they are great to ride.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    iPip wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Turn the front QR the correct way round... :wink:
    Which one, the rear? All of mine have always had the QR on the non-drive side because that's how they arrived. Is there a right way or have I just misunderstood your comment?
    The fron wheel is now facing the wrong way... You can tell by the mismatching stickers with the rear, hence turn the QR ( and the wheel)
    left the forum March 2023
  • iPip
    iPip Posts: 90
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    iPip wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Turn the front QR the correct way round... :wink:
    Which one, the rear? All of mine have always had the QR on the non-drive side because that's how they arrived. Is there a right way or have I just misunderstood your comment?
    The fron wheel is now facing the wrong way... You can tell by the mismatching stickers with the rear, hence turn the QR ( and the wheel)
    Ah! Thought I'd missed something, maybe even found a reason for being slow :wink:
    Regards
    Pip

    Cube Agree GTC Pro
    Boardman Hybrid Comp
    Voodoo Bantu
  • Gabbo
    Gabbo Posts: 864
    What's the setup on your bike now? Weight? Wheels look stunning
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Gabbo wrote:
    What's the setup on your bike now? Weight? Wheels look stunning
    With or without the suitcase on the back? :wink:
    Pegoretti
    Colnago
    Cervelo
    Campagnolo
  • colm_gti
    colm_gti Posts: 173
    philbar72 wrote:
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    there you go.... lovely!

    Looks good, nice bike ;)

    Where did you get the H plus son rims, or did Ugo supply them?
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Ugo supplied them. It's not a bad bike at all ta. The wheels make a huge difference...!
  • colm_gti
    colm_gti Posts: 173
    philbar72 wrote:
    Ugo supplied them. It's not a bad bike at all ta. The wheels make a huge difference...!

    Have the same bike, looking to get a wheelset before the season kicks off again, was planning to get something similar to yours before xmas, but ended up picking up a TT bike :?
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    What tt bike?out of interest....
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    Lots of you have contacted me about Archetype rims... there are no more 28 holes black Archetype available in the country. Next restock might be a couple of months away
    Strada might have a few left that they can build, maybe? Worth speaking to them if you have your mind set on those

    Otherwise there are plenty of quality rims around
    left the forum March 2023
  • pheez
    pheez Posts: 8
    Are the rims Wheelsmith uses on the race23s the H Son Archetype?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    pheez wrote:
    Are the rims Wheelsmith uses on the race23s the H Son Archetype?

    They look like them, but ask him... they might be some lookalike...
    left the forum March 2023
  • ricky1980
    ricky1980 Posts: 891
    Paolo,
    my wheels with a pair of michelin Pro4 service and a pair of conti R28 inner + PG1070 11-28 weighs at 2368g...thats epic. I did a subtraction, with skewers and the plastic rim tape BLBS gave me, the wheelset is 1488g :)

    hopefully my bike will be around 6.8kg with pedals once built
    Road - Cannondale CAAD 8 - 7.8kg
    Road - Chinese Carbon Diablo - 6.4kg
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    ricky1980 wrote:
    Paolo,
    my wheels with a pair of michelin Pro4 service and a pair of conti R28 inner + PG1070 11-28 weighs at 2368g...thats epic. I did a subtraction, with skewers and the plastic rim tape BLBS gave me, the wheelset is 1488g :)

    hopefully my bike will be around 6.8kg with pedals once built

    You need carbon bones next... :-)
    left the forum March 2023
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Ugo, are there any similar rims to the exalith finish the Mavic rims have?
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    Mavic open pro ceramics?

    I wish you could get a rim with that exalith finish, would be perfect.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    Open PRO ceramics have been discontinued, I think... the CD have a grey finish, but it will fade.
    No ceramic coatings, I fear, more trouble than good anyway... there is more to a rim than the way it looks
    left the forum March 2023
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    nathancom wrote:
    Mavic open pro ceramics?

    I wish you could get a rim with that exalith finish, would be perfect.

    The braking performance is superb, and they don't look too bad either :wink:
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Quick update 6 weeks in. wheels still going strong, as you’d expect. I’ve noticed one thing about them, that is especially true, these are demon wheels for descending. It appears a lot of people I ride with on the Sundays with the Kingston wheelers (been going for a couple of weeks again including last weekend when it was absolutely freezing!), can descend well but because of the quality of the hubs and free spinning nature of the wheels I literally gain quite a bit on them and without any effort (and I am not a great descender by any means). What I’ve said before still holds out as well, they offer better road manners, power delivery, cornering ability and confidence than my outgoing wheels, and a few other sets I’ve tried.
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Generally the heavier riders do thed to hold speed well when desending. It's the one area I excel at. :-)
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • pkripper
    pkripper Posts: 652
    philbar72 wrote:
    Quick update 6 weeks in. wheels still going strong, as you’d expect. I’ve noticed one thing about them, that is especially true, these are demon wheels for descending. It appears a lot of people I ride with on the Sundays with the Kingston wheelers (been going for a couple of weeks again including last weekend when it was absolutely freezing!), can descend well but because of the quality of the hubs and free spinning nature of the wheels I literally gain quite a bit on them and without any effort (and I am not a great descender by any means). What I’ve said before still holds out as well, they offer better road manners, power delivery, cornering ability and confidence than my outgoing wheels, and a few other sets I’ve tried.

    Phil, do you ride a bmc perchance? I've been looking at a set of those as an option and there was a chap on a bmc with then out with wheelers on the last couple of rides...
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    I have these on my Genesis. That's a heavy bike. It gets thoroughly abused.

    Brilliant wheels. Just brilliant.

    About to pull the plug on a Cannondale CAADX Ultegra Disc. The wheels for that will be swapped to the Genesis (which I will then sell). These will go on the 'Dale.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    philbar72 wrote:
    Quick update 6 weeks in. wheels still going strong, as you’d expect. I’ve noticed one thing about them, that is especially true, these are demon wheels for descending. It appears a lot of people I ride with on the Sundays with the Kingston wheelers (been going for a couple of weeks again including last weekend when it was absolutely freezing!), can descend well but because of the quality of the hubs and free spinning nature of the wheels I literally gain quite a bit on them and without any effort (and I am not a great descender by any means). What I’ve said before still holds out as well, they offer better road manners, power delivery, cornering ability and confidence than my outgoing wheels, and a few other sets I’ve tried.

    Yes, beside the aerodynamic nonsense one reads about wider rims, where 23 mm rims come handy is on a long twisty descent. They are not as good as tubulars at cornering, but they are not far off. I have tried a set of A 23 down the 20+ miles descent from Staffal to Pont St Martin (Italy), the last 3 miles are a constant bend and counter bend where you never really brake... 35-40 mph and I was pleasantly impressed at how I could hold the line I wanted to do without corrections

    http://www.zanibike.net/altimetria/6479 ... artin.aspx
    left the forum March 2023

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