time for a new frame

ilm_zero7

christmas woes... I've discovered a crack in my frame, close to the BB, and therefore neither want to risk it, or a repair. So am looking for a replacement frame with a shortlist of :

Cervelo S5
Colnago C59 (the current favourite)
Bianchi Oltre

any experience of these, or other (non- US recommendations), especially if there are deals to be had

Grill

Scott Foil Premium. Headquartered in Switzerland and built in Taiwan, not as American as people think...

ilm_zero7

No, not the Scott, although maybe a BMC ?

Strith

No warranty on your current frame? I know you don't want american but cannondale come with liftime frame warranty, and they're really canadian anyway.

Or BMC, Focus, Cube, Canyon?

Grill

Parlee

giant_man

you won't catch a C59 cracking .....

greasedscotsman

I'd go for an R5/R3 rather than an S5.

neeb

ILM Zero7 wrote:

christmas woes... I've discovered a crack in my frame, close to the BB, and therefore neither want to risk it, or a repair.

Just as a matter of interest, is the cracked frame a Zero 7, as in your name/avatar?

ilm_zero7

neeb wrote:

ILM Zero7 wrote:

christmas woes... I've discovered a crack in my frame, close to the BB, and therefore neither want to risk it, or a repair.

Just as a matter of interest, is the cracked frame a Zero 7, as in your name/avatar?

no the Zero is fine - its the SL

ademort

ILM Zero7 wrote:

christmas woes... I've discovered a crack in my frame, close to the BB, and therefore neither want to risk it, or a repair. So am looking for a replacement frame with a shortlist of :

Cervelo S5
Colnago C59 (the current favourite)
Bianchi Oltre

any experience of these, or other (non- US recommendations), especially if there are deals to be had

What size are you looking for.

Ademort

ivanoile

Maybe Pinarello Dogma?Or something from Orbea?There is a lot of products from Europe,also De rosa makes nice bikes.I have Bianchi Sempre and Trek Madone.Unfortunately,with Bianchi I had few problem with BB and frame,but Bianchi warranty service was terrible.I sent my Sempre in Semptember to factory and still today I don't have it.

My friends are driving Dogma2 and they have only the best words about.But for me Dogma sucks because last 3 models look the same,nothing new for 3 years except "new" types of carbon .

Cervelo S5 only if you will using it on plain terrain and time trial,but all-round bike is R3-R5.

Grill

Let's cut the crap. What you really need is a Storck.

ilm_zero7

Storck are such dull looking bikes, they make a cervelo look exciting! they may be technically sound, advanced even, but they are soulless

ademort

ILM Zero7 wrote:

Storck are such dull looking bikes, they make a cervelo look exciting! they may be technically sound, advanced even, but they are soulless

What exactly are you looking for ???
Ademort

ademort

What about looking here.

http://www.vosfietsen.nl/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=57

http://www.vosfietsen.nl/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=28
Theres a Bianchi Oltre half way down the page recently priced.

Ademort

smidsy

Basso are worth a look

prawny

Just get the colnago.

slowandsteady

ILM Zero7 wrote:

neeb wrote:

ILM Zero7 wrote:

christmas woes... I've discovered a crack in my frame, close to the BB, and therefore neither want to risk it, or a repair.

Just as a matter of interest, is the cracked frame a Zero 7, as in your name/avatar?

no the Zero is fine - its the SL

Christ on a bike, what caused that?

ilm_zero7

the previous owner ! it looks to me like the chain got thrown off and jammed between backstay and chainring - causing a shaving fro top to bottom. whats showing is a line where the shaving abruptly stops, more than a crack

thegreatdivide

I consider you a man of good taste ILM Zero7 so please don’t buy a DOGma ;-) The same goes for the Cento Uno SR (at least until they sort the graphics out).

If I was in your shoes my list would be in no particular order:

C59
De Rosa Protos
Look 695
Parlee Z5 SL

upperoilcan

I would be all over the S5.....

Although i wouldnt be unhappy with the others on your list.

passout

I'd get a Look myself. Cervelo look interesting mind you.

spasypaddy

nah you dont want to get a Look. Over rated

petemadoc

I think this thread is useless because you already know you're going to get the C59

ademort

If you can afford it get this one http://www.fietsspecialist.nl/nl/41/colnago.html C59 Ottanta limited Edition at bottom of the page.

Ademort

ilm_zero7

thegreatdivide wrote:

I consider you a man of good taste ILM Zero7 so please don’t buy a DOGma ;-) The same goes for the Cento Uno SR (at least until they sort the graphics out).

If I was in your shoes my list would be in no particular order:

C59
De Rosa Protos
Look 695
Parlee Z5 SL

I have a cento, the last of the ones with the nice graphic, so won't rush to replace it, but I think it is coming down to. c59 or Oltre ..... It would have to be in celeste if it was the latter

sturmey

Serious Question time:
I am a keen road cyclist riding 7k miles a year for the past 4 yrs I have always been inclined towards the cheapskate end of the market and the most I have ever spent on a carbon roadbike is £1500 with an extra £300 wheelset on top.
Fact is, I hanker after a top of the range road frame and can easily afford one but am worried that I would be underwhelmed with the ride experience. Or would I be blown away?
Should I get a Colnago C59?
Answers on a postcard please.

ilm_zero7

sturmy do get a top frame, then keep your older 'hack' but I suspect you might not

mallorcajeff

Sturmy get a great frame its a marvelous ride but as ILM Said I dont think you will.

ILM go for the Oltre with the Vacasoliel graphics its the best looking bike out there at the moment i think

Mccaria

Sturmey,

I have a bit of a thing going with C59s ( have both the mechanical and electric versions). Hand on heart from a performance perspective are they that much better than my Canyon SLX ? Probably not. If you are very cost conscious then I am not sure the C59 will give you that much of a wow factor over frames such as the Canyon at approx half the price. Having said that I really enjoy the c59s, the aesthetics are pleasing and they do ride very well and i will not be trading them in any time soon.

LegendLust

Some nice frames being mentioned here but personally (and obviously) depending on the OP's budget, I'd go for a handbuilt Legend, either the HT9.5 or the HT7.5

http://www.lebeauvelo.co.uk/index.php?o ... &Itemid=65

http://www.lebeauvelo.co.uk/index.php?o ... &Itemid=65

Although that metallic rosso on the 7.5 is a bit 'marmite'!