A loud freehub is normally a sign of good quality rather than the opposite
If you believe that then why at the same time recommend quiet chinese hubs?
The fulcrums are a great budget wheel imo. Ive ridden mine a lot through the autumn and winter and the rear hub has never had an issue. Ive not had the freehub body out since getting them new and iam pretty sure its 3 pawls in there so thats why they are not as loud as others with 4. They are not very quiet.. just not as loud as others. Quite a nice sound actually. Pickup is fine.. and yes ive had 4 pawl rear hubs before and there is not a significant difference really
Some louder hubs are not always better in reality. Take hopes pro 2.. That thing sounds awful to me with its 4 oversized pawls. The older quieter bulb hub was awesome but they changed it anyway and it was never considered bad quality
If you can look after a rear hub then you dont need loads of pawls in it as it gets to a point where pickup cant actually be improved anymore once you have enough. Some hubs have 6.. Is that really going to make enough of an improvement?
If you believe that then why at the same time recommend quiet chinese hubs?
I also recommend Campagnolo and Hope, which are noisy... unlike others, I never use words like "bulletproof" or "bombproof", but rather "good value" and "very good for the money". I use a lot of taiwanese Novatec hubs, which are more than adequate... I never said they are the best available... remember they cost half the price of a set of Hope and not everybody can spend 400 pounds for a set of wheels.
The point here is that some think that a loud freehub is somewhat a sign of bad engineering and something to be ashamed of... quite the opposite. If loud is a concern, one can use a mixture of runny grease and oil on the pawls to quiet it down, but it has more drawbacks than advantages
Fair enough. In some cases reducing the pawl spring tension to ease the noise is better than putting extra grease in there. I did it with a Redline project 79 hub and it worked well
These are good hubs IMO. The noise is there but not annoying - low pitched, kind of clunky and solid sounding...?! I never minded it. It's only when freewheeling. You don't notice after a few rides.
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Is a louder sound really an indicator of better quality?
Per se it does not mean anything, but typically it indicates bigger pawls, larger ratchet teeth, better springs, all things that make a better freehub
Considering freehubs and ratchets do wear, an over engineered one is not a bad thing.
The number of pawls is irrelevant, unless you believe in the catch delay nonsense. Three is fine, four is fine, six is fine.
Have a pair of fulcrum 5s for the last 12 months now.
Found the hub to be eerrie quiet for the first say 200miles before soundling like a hub should sound.
Only issue I have had with them was a pawl spring break causing a 1/4er second delay in the wheel free wheeling once stopping pedalling.New spring cost peanuts and was easy to fix.
Have been impressed with them..much to the point that I have bought some fulcrum 3s for my new summer bike but havent taken them out for a spin yet.....very much looking forward to mind!
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The freehub is not that loud at all tbh
If you believe that then why at the same time recommend quiet chinese hubs?
The fulcrums are a great budget wheel imo. Ive ridden mine a lot through the autumn and winter and the rear hub has never had an issue. Ive not had the freehub body out since getting them new and iam pretty sure its 3 pawls in there so thats why they are not as loud as others with 4. They are not very quiet.. just not as loud as others. Quite a nice sound actually. Pickup is fine.. and yes ive had 4 pawl rear hubs before and there is not a significant difference really
Indeed. Chris King freehubs sound like an angry robot wasp and they cost a fortune.
Campagnolo/Fulcrum freehubs are well known for their noise. It’s a very distinguishable sound – a nice sound IMO.
I think Ugo was being sarcastic.
Some louder hubs are not always better in reality. Take hopes pro 2.. That thing sounds awful to me with its 4 oversized pawls. The older quieter bulb hub was awesome but they changed it anyway and it was never considered bad quality
If you can look after a rear hub then you dont need loads of pawls in it as it gets to a point where pickup cant actually be improved anymore once you have enough. Some hubs have 6.. Is that really going to make enough of an improvement?
No.
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I also recommend Campagnolo and Hope, which are noisy... unlike others, I never use words like "bulletproof" or "bombproof", but rather "good value" and "very good for the money". I use a lot of taiwanese Novatec hubs, which are more than adequate... I never said they are the best available... remember they cost half the price of a set of Hope and not everybody can spend 400 pounds for a set of wheels.
The point here is that some think that a loud freehub is somewhat a sign of bad engineering and something to be ashamed of... quite the opposite. If loud is a concern, one can use a mixture of runny grease and oil on the pawls to quiet it down, but it has more drawbacks than advantages
Per se it does not mean anything, but typically it indicates bigger pawls, larger ratchet teeth, better springs, all things that make a better freehub
Considering freehubs and ratchets do wear, an over engineered one is not a bad thing.
The number of pawls is irrelevant, unless you believe in the catch delay nonsense. Three is fine, four is fine, six is fine.
Found the hub to be eerrie quiet for the first say 200miles before soundling like a hub should sound.
Only issue I have had with them was a pawl spring break causing a 1/4er second delay in the wheel free wheeling once stopping pedalling.New spring cost peanuts and was easy to fix.
Have been impressed with them..much to the point that I have bought some fulcrum 3s for my new summer bike but havent taken them out for a spin yet.....very much looking forward to mind!