DMT shoes

Team4Luke

Anyone any advice on these, have used SIDI for all my cycling life, currently using Ergo 2, would like to try something different, issue I have with SIDI is they are very heavy and feel like clogs and too many fiddly bits on the outside, want something smoother and maybe boa fitting etc. My Pedals are Time RXS range. Think current SIDI are massively overpriced, £280 for Ergo 3 is a joke.
My feet have the tapered toes (can't remember name) ie big toe longest and little shortest in order.

Crankbrother

DMT's are great shoes ... I have 2 pairs bought a good few years ago and they do the job perfectly ... A little snugger than Northwave but they mold to your foot well so no issues ... DMT used to make Nike shoes and they wre also a great shoe (i still have my 2000 Poggio's which I wear under oversocks in bad weather) ...

Only problem, the glue ... It discolours for some reason (Google reaveals it's common) and it looks like you have dirty sweat on the shoes ... Only a problem when you're admiring them ... No-one would notice when the pedals are turning ...

SteveR_100Milers

Team4Luke wrote:

Anyone any advice on these, have used SIDI for all my cycling life, currently using Ergo 2, would like to try something different, issue I have with SIDI is they are very heavy and feel like clogs and too many fiddly bits on the outside, want something smoother and maybe boa fitting etc. My Pedals are Time RXS range. Think current SIDI are massively overpriced, £280 for Ergo 3 is a joke.
My feet have the tapered toes (can't remember name) ie big toe longest and little shortest in order.

I've just ordered some Prisma 2s from woggle so I'll let you know, but I can only compare to Shimano R105s which are probably bigger than sidis.

marin_maniac

If it ain't broke don't fix it. I have to keep telling myself that when I want to try and new and fashionable stuff when I know the tried and tested stuff that works for me.

I had to keep telling myself that my Spesh S works shoes were fine and my feet don't go numb when I ride in them. Put my Sidi's on and instantly feel like slippers (albeit heavier ones!) and they 'disappear' on my feet.

There's a reason why Cancellara rides in Sidi's when he's contracted to another brand.

I think I've tried every brand of non mouldable shoes and in terms of feel and slipper like comfort I don't think anything comes close to Sidi's.

I concur they are overpriced, but at the end I the day what price do you put on comfort??

Just my 2p's worth.

rozzer32

Marin Maniac wrote:

If it ain't broke don't fix it. I have to keep telling myself that when I want to try and new and fashionable stuff when I know the tried and tested stuff that works for me.

I had to keep telling myself that my Spesh S works shoes were fine and my feet don't go numb when I ride in them. Put my Sidi's on and instantly feel like slippers (albeit heavier ones!) and they 'disappear' on my feet.

There's a reason why Cancellara rides in Sidi's when he's contracted to another brand.

I think I've tried every brand of non mouldable shoes and in terms of feel and slipper like comfort I don't think anything comes close to Sidi's.

I concur they are overpriced, but at the end I the day what price do you put on comfort??

Just my 2p's worth.

But then there is the other side of the coin. I've tried Shimano, Sidi, Bont and currently using Giro shoes. The OP has used Sidi all his life, so if he hasn't tried other brands how do you know that Sidi is the best? I find the my Giro shoes in another league to Sidi. I found the Sidi Ergo 3 a pile of you know what.

Off topic but I use custom footbeds. A must for any shoe I think. It totally changed the feel of the shoe and it really makes all the difference.

Crankbrother

Fab has been wearing Northwave for the past 2 years ... I've seen it with my own telly ...

On a side note ... All but the stupidly expensive Italian shoes look like sh!te ... Why??? Surely making a great looking pair for £120-150 would get people tp try the brand ... £200 on an unknown quantity is a big gamble ...

Team4Luke

just been looking at the Prisma 2, quite a lot on Wiggle "discontinued" I was looking at the none team ones, the team issue are few quid more and not so keen on black/yellow. Moulded sole insert sounds interesting too and the boa fasterner, sometimes I get foot cramp after a hard session and would be good to try a new fastening method, can't find them for sale anywhere else. SIDI have been great but then do feel like clogs weighing you down, be great to have some lightness under foot. Even the three velcro ones are great value just over £100.

SteveR_100Milers

I've just got the dtm prisma 2 but in red. Initial view is sizing is spot on from the dtm guide, I'm an 11 she size which is a 46 for dtm. Have a much higher arch insert compared to shimano, but they feel very comfy walking around the office before I have tried the thermo moulding... Will be using them later at the velo so update after that.

Monty Dog

Crankbrother wrote:

£200 on an unknown quantity is a big gamble ...

If you did your homework you'd know that DMT make shoes for many of the 'brands' and are one of the few who actually 'make' their own shoes, unlike the likes of Specialized and Giro...

SteveR_100Milers

Crankbrother wrote:

Fab has been wearing Northwave for the past 2 years ... I've seen it with my own telly ...

On a side note ... All but the stupidly expensive Italian shoes look like sh!te ... Why??? Surely making a great looking pair for £120-150 would get people tp try the brand ... £200 on an unknown quantity is a big gamble ...

One the Gilbert was happy to take apparently.

Google them, plenty of forums with experience that they are as good (for those that they fit) as Sidi, Lake, Giro etc. Like most clothing, try before you buy.

Back to the review; wore them (Prisma 2 Red/white) tonight for the first time in a 90 minute velo derney session. The ATOP system works OK, but not that intuitively, each dial turns in the same direction, for some reason y brain wants opposite for each hand. Maybe just me, others will find it perfectly natural, but I keep slacking the left shoe instead of tightening.

First thi thing I noticed while riding was the arch support like nothing I've encountered in the shimano shoes. They're a bit snug, and I learn immediately that my right foot is bigger than my left. After the first 20 minutes, my right foot is a bit numb, as I have overtightened the shoe by some margin - you have to be subtle with this lacing system thing!

Next 20 minutes much more comfy, laces much looser, but foot is held firm despite 130+ rpm all out efforts, and a deep heel cup. They are also light and stiff but not daftly so, and very supportive where it's needed, feeling much more connected to the bike.

Last 20 minutes was more preoccupied with keeping my lungs inside me to notice what was happening at the end of my legs, so I guess that's a positive. Oh, did I mention they are light?

Right now I am wearing them having just cooked them in the oven, so hopefully any possibility of hot spots and numbness will be eradicated. With hindsight I'd have bought half a size up than was recommended, but woggle only had the 46 and 47 so I'd rather be on the smaller size as I'm sure the uppers will stretch, and I know 47 is too big for me.

Crankbrother

Monty Dog wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

£200 on an unknown quantity is a big gamble ...

If you did your homework you'd know that DMT make shoes for many of the 'brands' and are one of the few who actually 'make' their own shoes, unlike the likes of Specialized and Giro...

I think you quoted that way out of context ... The 2nd post in the thread (mine) praises DMT based on the 3 pairs I own ... The unknown quantity is how the shoe will react to the individual user's feet, not tne brand (which I rate highly based on current /previous experience) ...

Team4Luke

thanks for the review, I have ordered some Prisma 2 today, I could only find the gold and black in my size, which kind of looks like an overpaid footballler, but never mind always have my over socks on.

Question- having always used SIDI, will there be a need to adjust seatpost height, I can only assume the DMT have a lower stack height, and if anything a lowering of the seatpost, although suspect the knee can take a minor difference with some riding in easily first.