1 litre bottles

daveyroids
daveyroids Posts: 223
edited February 2013 in Road buying advice
I drink loads when I'm training. I don't like back packs 'sweaty' so I just use standard bottles. Until recently I had a couple of 1 liter standard bike bottle that I used for years, until I lost them. I am now stuck with 750 ml bottles which are too small. I have tried to get simple standard 1 liter bottles, nothing fancy and I can't find a thing.

In the last few years have people suddenly started drinking less?

Where can I buy some bottles of this size please?
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  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    hi, try infinity cycles in durham, they have sis 1 litre bottles, might be a good idea to take your cage through as well to make sure they fit! hope this helps! :)
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    Thanks for that. That's what I used to use the SIS ones. May call in on Thursday.
  • I use the SIS 1L bottles too. Got them from Ribble I think.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Big bottles have a greater tendency to fall out of cages - make sure you have secure cages too.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    someone posted here recently that Amazon sell 1 litre bottles.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitre-Waterbott ... 731&sr=1-1
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Thats a serious amount of fluid to be carrying, what are you training for :?:
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    usually 750ml an hour is plenty for most even in heat? especially if you're using electrolyte mixes.
  • usually 750ml an hour is plenty for most even in heat? especially if you're using electrolyte mixes.

    It might well be (I tend to be about 500ml/hour of SIS Electrolyte), but the longer you want to ride the more fluid you need, making 1 litre bottles more useful than 750ml.
  • yeachan153
    yeachan153 Posts: 401
    team47b wrote:
    someone posted here recently that Amazon sell 1 litre bottles.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitre-Waterbott ... 731&sr=1-1
    I posted that and the bottles are superb

    (dont ask me for images :lol: )
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    ShutUpLegs wrote:
    Thats a serious amount of fluid to be carrying, what are you training for :?:

    Planing a 2 day coast to coast at the end of the season (Sunderland - Whitehaven - Sunderland). Will carry 4 Liters 2 on the frame, 1 on the seat post and 2 500ml disposable bottles in my back pocket. I know its not conventional to lug so much on a road bike but what can I say once I start I don't like stopping. I usually ride this non stop.

    Also, when training I like 2 liters as I would prefer to take too much than too little. If I'm on a solo ride on a Sunday this means no cafe stop hence the extra fuel.
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    yeachan153 wrote:
    team47b wrote:
    someone posted here recently that Amazon sell 1 litre bottles.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitre-Waterbott ... 731&sr=1-1
    I posted that and the bottles are superb

    (dont ask me for images :lol: )


    Do these bottles fit in a standard bottle cage.
  • Just as importantly, how do you manage to get a 1l bottle into the carrier on the frame? I ride a 56 frame bike and there's no way a 1l bottle would fit - 750ml is the maximum for mine, and enough for me.
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    All my frames are large and a 1 liter bottle will fit fine. Especially if you have a medium compact frame there will be issues.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    Second that - I've got a couple of litre bottles for European sportives - I don't always fill them both but the option is there if there's a long descent and then a climb I can fill them at the top and it can save stopping at a water station on very hot days. It is a fair bit of weight to lug up a mountain if they are both full mind you. I suppose on hot training rides it saves stopping at a shop or cafe.

    With a biggish trad geometry frame they fit fine - you do need to be sure they are secure in the cages right enough.

    Google Elite Scalatore 1 litre and you'll find them for sale.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • These bad boys are 1 litre and are decent bottles too. I've been using mine over a year now.

    People take the pee when they see the size of the bottles but it suits me just fine as I like to drink a lot.


    Helps if I post the link: http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... LITBOTT446
  • fatdaz
    fatdaz Posts: 348
    Halfords do 1Ltr bottles
  • yeachan153
    yeachan153 Posts: 401
    As long as cages are relatively tight they won't fall out. Although my Giant cage that inserts sideways does make it fall out, so avoid side inserting cages for 1 litre bottles
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    Worth a go for £1.99
  • Bordersroadie
    Bordersroadie Posts: 1,052
    fatdaz wrote:
    Halfords do 1Ltr bottles

    +1

    One of the few places that do them. Good quality too. I use two of them. Tapered at the end so not good for all cages but my Planet X carbon cages work fine with them.

    As with (all?) "1lt" bottles, they hold less, something like 960ml.
  • pilot_pete
    pilot_pete Posts: 2,120
    Be careful with the weight of a 1ltr bottle. I had TACX Tao bottle cages and 750ml bottles were enough to break the 'tag' off that stops the bottle falling right through the cage. This happened as I went over rough tarmac, and it happened with the replacement cage too. I gave up on those cages after that and now have all carbon cages which hold up well. Might be something to consider if you are going to use 1ltr bottles...

    PP
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    Will keep that in mind. I use plastic profile design cages, they have been ok in the past.

    I will have to look in Halfords at those.
  • yeachan153
    yeachan153 Posts: 401
    Polycarbonate ones seem to hold up too
  • alpineaddict
    alpineaddict Posts: 247
    To be honest I was thinking about this last night... Planning to go to N Wales for some 50/60 mile rides and calculating that each ride will take in the region of 4 hours, and getting through 1 bottle an hour, I was wondering on the best solution (with no obvious feed stations that you get on Sportives). I have seen some carrying extra bottles in those carriers that fit under the saddle, but not too keen on them...

    Maybe the 1ltr bottle is the way forward if out on your own for long periods...
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    Its either that or a backpack. I like 1 l bottles for long rides and endurance training. Especially endurance training where a stop just completely knocks you out of rhythm.

    Same when I'm riding 100 mile +, a stop for lunch and filling bottles seems to wreck my legs. I would rather start with the extra weight and inconvenience and keep rolling.

    What about this instead of an under seat holder - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=74876

    or

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=65844

    or go ridiculous with 2 of these - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... delID=4962
  • DubaiNeil
    DubaiNeil Posts: 246
    I use the Tacx seat mount to have a third cage on my bike (like this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tacx-bottle-cage-saddle-mount/) , and carry 3 x 750ml Camelbak insulated bottles - which are the same external size as the 1 litre bottles due to the insulation. The Tacx mount can hold one or two cages, and when setup for just one, the cage is held "centrally" on the mount. The angle that the is held is adjustable, which avoids the issues of the bottles being ejected over bumps etc, which seems to be a common occurrence for those cage mounts which only hold the bottles vertically.

    I normally have the third bottle frozen solid, then switch an "empty" to the back when its time to reload.

    Interested to hear the comment about the Tacx cages breaking, as I have three on the bike (and have had for >10,000km's) and haven't had any issues so far, although the roads are much smoother here than the UK.

    We will easily get through 1 litre an hour at this time of year, and you certainly wouldn't want to run out while riding here in the summer.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    I use Tacx Tao and they've been fine with 1 litre bottles - maybe it depends what they are made of as aren't there different models of that design ? I have added a bit of insulating tape to the top of my cages just to keep bottles more secure so that tends to mean I'm placing them in the cages rather than just dropping them in. I wouldn't have thought a cage designed to take 750 cl would struggle with a litre though - surely they'd build them with a bit more tolerance than that.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • Bordersroadie
    Bordersroadie Posts: 1,052
    My 1lt bottle (Maxi Cincio from Halfords) has quite a pronouced taper at its bottom. This causes it to not be held securely in one of my bikes (with an old blackburn wire type cage) but in my Planet X carbon cages, and my steel BBB cages (from CRC), they're as solid as a rock over all terrain.

    Just an aside, there is also a problem with some cages holding them when they're empty not just when they're full. When the bottle's empty, my Blackburn cage sees it creep up until it's almost coming out.
  • daveyroids
    daveyroids Posts: 223
    Got my cheap Mitre bottles from Amazon. They are OK. I am still going to get the SIS ones but the Mitre bottles will do the job for now. They hold in my cages fine.
  • Yes, Halfords do an Elite bottle which is really good. I have two other Elite 1l bottles and they are poop in comparison.

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165633
  • Sorry didn't see thread was so old. Maybe you now need another bottle lol