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GT XCR 09 chain guide fitting

AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
edited June 2012 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi, I'm looking at fitting a MRP mini chain guide due tome converting to 1x9. I haven't purchased the guide yet as I just wanted to voice it off a few folk with experience in these things. I have had a look at the BB and noticed a there is a washer between the bearing housing and the lock nut if this were removed it would provide space for the chain guide. Any advice would be great.

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  • Greer_Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    What's your question?!
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Yer sorry, not explained very well. I'm just looking for a bit of advice from anyone who has fitted one of these guides to an I drive and if there is any problems in setting up etc.
  • Greer_Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    I take it the spacer is on the drive side and you don't have any ISCG 05 tabs?
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  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    What BB/crankset is it.
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Hi yes the spacer is on the drive side,andi think it's a shimano BB, it's standard for theGT.
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    so are you wanting to know how to fit it or what is is like?
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  • Greer_Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    AlanLedson wrote:
    Yer sorry, not explained very well. I'm just looking for a bit of advice from anyone who has fitted one of these guides to an I drive and if there is any problems in setting up etc.
    AlanLedson wrote:
    Hi yes the spacer is on the drive side,andi think it's a shimano BB, it's standard for theGT.

    GT I drive - I've heard of it, but not sure what it is, a quick google makes it look like its hollowtech related? Not sure though :lol:
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Yes, to fit should I remove the crank, BB lock nut drive side, remove spacer/ washer, fit guide, refit lock nut and then fit crank, check chain length and setup gears? Am I missing anything.
  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    That doesn't sound like HTII to me.
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  • Greer_Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    cooldad wrote:
    That doesn't sound like HTII to me.

    Nope it doesn't now! :lol:
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  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Greer_ wrote:
    cooldad wrote:
    That doesn't sound like HTII to me.

    Nope it doesn't now! :lol:
    Huh?
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  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    Greer_ wrote:
    cooldad wrote:
    That doesn't sound like HTII to me.

    Nope it doesn't now! :lol:
    Huh?
    For the slow and otherwise afflicted, it sounded like he wanted to replace the drive side spacer with a BB mounted chain device, so assumed HTII, but as these don't have a drive side lock nut (or indeed any lock nuts as such) one may now assume that it is not.
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  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Ah, I appear to end up on the wrong thread! Makes even less sense from my perspective!
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Many thanks for all your advice, I think i'll try it out, and see if it fits and runs ok, im getting the feeling theres not many people experienced in GT i-drive systems, so I think it will be a 'suck it and see'!
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    AlanLedson wrote:
    Many thanks for all your advice, I think i'll try it out, and see if it fits and runs ok, im getting the feeling theres not many people experienced in GT i-drive systems, so I think it will be a 'suck it and see'!
    there is plenty. but you are not giving the required info.

    if you dont know what you have post up a picture.
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  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,748
    The I-drive doesn't change the afact it has a regular BB shell from my memeory of looking at them.....
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  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    AlanLedson wrote:
    Many thanks for all your advice, I think i'll try it out, and see if it fits and runs ok, im getting the feeling theres not many people experienced in GT i-drive systems, so I think it will be a 'suck it and see'!
    It's not an iDrive system, it will be, most likely, a Shimano or Sram BB and crankset. But without knowing which it's impossible to comment.
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    Ok the BB with is 73mm.
    now we need to guess what cranks wer fitted?
    from this info
    I have had a look at the BB and noticed a there is a washer between the bearing housing and the lock nut
    no BB that i have everfitted to an MTB. there may have been a shopping bike with a one piece crank that had a lock ring on the drive side but that would not have fitted a MTB.

    if you have a shimano BB and crankset. No probs.

    anything else could be a problem. But no external BB set up has a Drive side spacer on a 73mm BB

    so who knows.

    if you want the correct info post up clear pictures. or just read parktools.
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Thanks for your advice, I don't mean to offend anybody I know you guys know what ur talking about but as you may have guessed I'm a little out of touch with the technical jargon. I think the best thing for me to do is upload a couple of pics. I think I was jus hoping someone out there might of already fitted one of these guides to my type of bike and could enlighten me!
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    It does not matter is some one has or not. There is less than a 50/50 chance they had the same set up.

    And what you have now may not be suitable. Things are never simple.
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  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Socretes once said:
    If you don't know the jargon, don't just make it up. It's less than useful, and confuses those who know.

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  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,748
    I've seen 2 bikes with 73mm width ISIS BB (one was a GT) where the method of tightening was a C-spanner on what looks like a locknut (it's not as its part of the end of the BB just like the shimano tool goes into the end of a square taper Shimano BB)....maybe that is what the OP is seeing.
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 81,520 Lives Here
    Some Isis and octalink BBs have both internal and external splines. And then there is the rubber ring on some Isis.
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  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,748
    These ones aren't splines, they look just like the locknut ring on cup and cone square taper BB's.
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  • AlanLedsonAlanLedson Posts: 12
    Sorry for the delay in getting my pics uploaded my iCloud is playin up proper!!!! I've had a good look at the drive side locknut and it does seem to be an external splined ring nut and then behind that is what looks like a spacer ring approximately 3mm thick and then the bearing. I'll try and get the pics up tonight .
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