Chain length advise

bikeit65
bikeit65 Posts: 999
edited May 2012 in Workshop
My bike has been having a few problems recently with gear shifting and the chain dropping down to the next lower rear cassette while you pedal backwards at lights, junctions etc,
So i have replaced the rear cassette, chain and middle front chainring, but this morning when out on a club run an old guy who done a bit of bike mechanics just said to me when we were stopped at the coffee shop that he thought the chain was too long, so could you look at the photos and let me know what you think regards the chain length.

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Trek Domane SL7 GEN4
Planet X RT58
Cannondale CAAD 10 2012.
Pain.. Is weakness leaving the body.

HATING LIFE-CYCLES FROM 2011

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  • desweller
    desweller Posts: 5,175
    Looks too long to me.

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  • bikeit65
    bikeit65 Posts: 999
    Found this http://www.machinehead-software.co.uk/b ... hcalc.html
    and according to the calculations the chain length should be 53 inches but the chain is 52 inches?
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  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561
    Don't know what experience your bike mechanic had that said the chain was too long but from what I've read it looks a bit short.

    In your first pic with the chain on the big/big combo the general advice is that should still be a reasonably discernible angle to the chain pathway as it passes through the jockey wheels on the rear mech. Your pic shows that you are just about OK with the existing length. If the chain was any shorter there would hardly be any angle.

    As you have pointed out using the calculator, I would add an extra inch at least to your chain and see how you go with the gear changes after setting up your rear mech again.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,414
    is that a shimano rear mech?

    go to http://techdocs.shimano.com

    choose groupset name, choose the si-*.pdf file for your model of rear mech, it contains instructions to set the correct chain length

    fwiw usually with shimano, you put the chain on biggest ring, smallest sprocket, then set the chain length so that the axles of the two jockey wheels are vertically in-line - but there may be some models this doesn't apply to

    if it's not shimano, go to maker's website and follow similar process
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  • bikeit65
    bikeit65 Posts: 999
    Followed the Shimano instructions and enclosed a photo so what do you think?

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    Trek Domane SL7 GEN4
    Planet X RT58
    Cannondale CAAD 10 2012.
    Pain.. Is weakness leaving the body.

    HATING LIFE-CYCLES FROM 2011
  • mercia_man
    mercia_man Posts: 1,431
    I agree with sungod. Chain on biggest ring and smallest sprocket and adjust length until jockey wheels vertical over each other. I use this Shimano method on all my bikes, triples and doubles, Campag and Shimano.

    Looking at your latest pic, I reckon you've got the length right.
  • mercia_man
    mercia_man Posts: 1,431
    Just looked a bit more closely at your latest pic. If anything, the chain is slightly too tight.

    I'd try putting one extra link to see if you can bring the lowest jockey wheel axle back until it is directly underneath the top one.
  • bikeit65
    bikeit65 Posts: 999
    I will do that tomorrow and report back with a picture
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Also, post a photograph of small-small.
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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I find for a mech like that with normal size ockey wheels wrapping the chain around the big ring and the big cassette sporcket and bring the two ends together (inner and outer obviously) and add one full link (outer plus inner) then pass chain through mech and oin with a master link works very well.

    Trying to do by mech position is more difficult. You know if the chain is too long when in small ring and smallest rear sprocket the chain rubs against the mech cage. If you have it so there is a bit of gap in this gear that you will never use the chain is the right length.
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