Shimano PTFE Dry Lube

Gilly6333
Gilly6333 Posts: 10
edited November 2012 in Workshop
Any one used this? Ive been using a wet lube, but seemed to get black and dirty too quick. just had new chain and cassette...
would like it to stay cleaner longer!

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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    If you want a clean chain, ride on a track or leave the bike at home and walk. There is no other option, I am afraid.
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  • Gilly6333
    Gilly6333 Posts: 10
    If you want a clean chain, ride on a track or leave the bike at home and walk. There is no other option, I am afraid.

    I gather you havent used it then!
  • derall
    derall Posts: 2,836
    I've used Finish Line PTFE. As a lube, it works okay. Does the chain stay any cleaner? No.
    Like ugo says above, your chain will get cruddy if you're outside. Maybe a fully enclosed chain guard like Pashley put on the Sovereign will help keep the chain clean, but that's not really an option if there's a cassette involved.
    Other than that, just get used to regular use of the chain bath...
  • startern
    startern Posts: 175
    I used this and was frankly disappointed with how black the chain became. You expect a blackened chain from a Wet lube, fair enough. But the Shimano PTFE lube which is supposed to be a Dry lube (doesn't mention on the package though) is promoted to leave a dry top layer, but it doesn't -- the black layer on the chain which develops soon after is rather quite wet.

    The only cleanest lube I've come across is a Wax lubrictant. Shimano don't do one but the one I tried was the Finish Line Wax Lubricant. Chain and sprockets do attract dirt but don't actually turn black. On the other hand this particular lubricant also only lasted 20 or so miles.
  • Try squirt wax lub.it goes on the consistency & colour of carnation milk, dries clear . The chain doesn't stay spotless but certainly doesn't "gunge" up, as it gathers dirt the wax globules & drops off. I don't think there is any lub. that is perfect you just makes your choice, squirt is not available countrywide but I usually get mine from chevin/stiff cycles Yorks.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I wouldn't recommend Squirt at this time of year; it doesn't offer the moisture protection that an oil or wet lube does. It's quite good in the summer though. just don't over-apply it because as it flakes off with the dirt it tends to accumulate on the chainstay and rear wheel rim. Not so good for braking.
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    A lube is described as wet or dry not because of its finished state but because that is the condition it is designed to be used in....so wet or dry makes no difference to how dirty a chain will get.

    What does make the difference is the weather.

    If you want to keep your chain cleaned and lubed, clean and lube it regularly - it' s the only way.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    smidsy wrote:
    A lube is described as wet or dry not because of its finished state but because that is the condition it is designed to be used in....so wet or dry makes no difference to how dirty a chain will get.

    What does make the difference is the weather.

    Sorry, that's complete rubbish. A "dry" lubricant is so called because the lubricating element itself is dry e.g. teflon. It comes as a liquid, but the liquid is designed to distribute the dry lubricant component and then mostly evaporate, leaving any oil based part of the liquid behind. That's why dry lubricants tend to get less mucky, since there is less sticky oily stuff left behind compared to wet lubricants. Wet lubricants tend to be more water resistant as they are more oil based, and we all know that oil and water don't mix.
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    edited November 2012
    oops
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    smidsy wrote:
    drlodge wrote:
    Sorry, that's complete rubbish. A "dry" lubricant is so called because the lubricating element itself is dry e.g. teflon. It comes as a liquid, but the liquid is designed to distribute the dry lubricant component and then mostly evaporate, leaving any oil based part of the liquid behind. That's why dry lubricants tend to get less mucky, since there is less sticky oily stuff left behind compared to wet lubricants. Wet lubricants tend to be more water resistant as they are more oil based, and we all know that oil and water don't mix.
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    I have highlighted the relevant parts in your kind reply that demonstrate that we are saying the same thing.

    Wet lube is designed to be used in wet conditions. Dry lube is designed to be used in dry conditions.

    I have never stated that dry lube is not dryer than wet lube I simply pointed out that they are referenced as such because they are designed to be used in such conditions - and not because of their physical properties.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • tonye_n
    tonye_n Posts: 832
    smidsy wrote:
    oops
    Lol :lol: