How do I fit this little Token chain catcher thingy

petemadoc
petemadoc Posts: 2,331
edited April 2012 in Workshop
I've had this for months sat in a drawer because I can't see where it goes.

Here's my front mech, there doesn't seem to be a bolt at the front like other peoples.

chainring.jpg

Comments

  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    If it's the same one as mine, you can only fit them to braze-on front mechs and not your band-on mech
  • Wirral_paul
    Wirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    Simple answer is it cant be fitted to a band on front mech. The only way you could fit it is to buy a braze on front mech and an adaptor for your frame like this..

    K-Edge_braze_on_adapter_clamp_black__42828_zoom.jpg
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Grrrr Sufferin' succotash

    Are there any chain dropper things that will fit?
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015

    However, the Dog Fang mounts directly adjacent the smaller ring - so if your tubes ain't straight around there (and it looks like yours aren't Pete) then that won't fit either! I had quite a job to get one to fit on my Look 585 as the BB lug was partly in the way. Much easier though than that flared seat tube.

    I believe you can do something with a cable tie! You just need the end of the cable tie to be large enough to just fit between the seat tube and the inner chainring. Might be a decent solution in your case.

    Or you just make this an excuse to go Campag :lol:
    Faster than a tent.......
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Rolf . . . . . .

    Where's the bling
  • PS - love the ingenuity of cable tie but personally I would try my best to Heath Robinson the deda into working first ...
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    Rolf . . . . . .

    Where's the bling

    With the cable tie? Here! http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/39023475 ... adtype=pla
    Faster than a tent.......
  • brucey72
    brucey72 Posts: 1,086
    I have a band on front mech too. K -Edge do a banded chain catcher but its about £35 so I got one of these which is a chinese copy but is easy to install and works very well:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34-9mm-CNC-Ch ... 2c630d0e48

    It took about 10 days to arrive.

    I tried a deda dog fang but as my bottom bracket area flares out at the bottom it would not sit properly. The cable tie method only seems to work if your inner chainring sits close enough to your seat tube for the cable tie to almost touch it when its installed and mine didn't.
  • brucey72
    brucey72 Posts: 1,086
    This is the K-edge one to which I reffered to in my previous post:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/k-edge-road-cla ... n-catcher/

    As you will see, the chines one looks almost identical
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Holy Moly!!! £36.89 for a tiny band on thing with a strip of metal stuck to it. Painfully over priced!!! You could buy a decent front mech for that. Crazy

    Even the Chinese one seems pricey

    Slightly cheaper here but terrible colour

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-King-KREX- ... 857wt_1037

    Might try the cable tie method . . . ..........

    Any other suggestions selcome
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    Slightly cheaper here but terrible colour

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-King-KREX- ... 857wt_1037

    Might try the cable tie method . . . ..........

    Any other suggestions selcome

    OK - get a new mech and fit this rather natty band on adaptor from the above chap (though I do think his chain catcher would look terrific on your bike :wink: )

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-King-KREX- ... 27c55eccc8
    Faster than a tent.......
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Rolf F wrote:
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    Slightly cheaper here but terrible colour

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-King-KREX- ... 857wt_1037

    Might try the cable tie method . . . ..........

    Any other suggestions selcome

    OK - get a new mech and fit this rather natty band on adaptor from the above chap (though I do think his chain catcher would look terrific on your bike :wink: )

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bi-King-KREX- ... 27c55eccc8

    OK so I just shelled out £60 for a Dura ace front mech (please don't let my wife see this thread) and now you're telling me to get a braze on version. That clamp does look pretty sweet though, never seen red carbon. I can see all sorts of coloured carbon trends happening!!
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Maybe you just need a new frame for the chain watcher..........
    Faster than a tent.......
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Rolf F wrote:
    Maybe you just need a new frame for the chain watcher..........

    Stop it! ! !
  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    Those chain keepers only work with Di2. You'll need a complete new groupset.
  • Yossie
    Yossie Posts: 2,600
    Incorrect Dude - they don't work with Di2: the chain catcher messes with the electrical signals every time that you change gear (essentially it acts like chaff that they disperse from aircraft when they think that someone is firing rockets at them - fuzzes up the signals) - it confuses the Di2 "brain" and sends it into random changes. That is why pro dudes who use Di2 don't use them and some people have stopped using Di2.

    The only decent groupsets they work properly with are 2012 Red and Super Record 11 (they won't work with normal Record due to material inconsistencies).

    The only frames that they properly fit to snugly and won't shift about on are Ritte Bombergs - they are also need deep rim Lightweights to offset the added weight of the chain catcher and to maintain the front/rear balance ratios of the bike.

    Naturally all the other old shyyyyyte on the old bike should be smashed with an axe then thrown into next door's garden.

    Sorry to be the purveyor of bad news.
  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    Bloody hell, Yossie, I didn't know that. Much relief all round. I'm now very pleased I didn't waste my money on DA and went for Super Record on my LOOK 586 build. :lol:

    Didn't know that about the wheels either. I'll be on the phone to Germany very shortly.

    viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=12842647

    If you look closely you can just see the colour co-ordinated Token chain keeper in the photo!
  • Yossie
    Yossie Posts: 2,600
    No worries - happy to help anytime.

    They actually did a study on all this, and found that they also provide increased wattage when teamed with black Lampre or Molteni kit.

    Bizarre I know, but there you go.

    Good to see that you have made a wise and informed choice though - you have the Yosster approval.