Marathon Plus 700c Insanley tight?

nwallace
nwallace Posts: 1,465
edited November 2011 in Workshop
Got 2 of these with steel beads, pigging nightmate fitting them.
Destroyed 2 tubes in the process, plastic tyre levers proving useless on them, and while huge steel park tool ones have helped hasn't stopped me inevitably pinching the tube on fitting the 2nd tube.

Should I just pay the extra for kevlar bead in future?
Do Nellyphants count?

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  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    hm, hold on I've gone and fitted the original tube again, but the 2nd one does have a hole in it.
    Sadly Wiggle also arsed up and sent me 4 Tour 26 Slims an 1 Tour 28 Slim so I don't have any more tubes. to try so both are getting patched unti lthe correct ones turn up.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • fidbod
    fidbod Posts: 317
    Hmm,

    not a problem I have had. Marathon pluses went onto my open pro rims using fingers only.
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    hm, Rims are Mach 1 250's
    Back wheel was tight but the front's been a nightmare.

    Finding it fairly resistive in pushing the beads together though so could jsut be I'm not strong enough for them.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    Those rims are 19mm so may be a bit wide for 28mm tyres.
    Open Pro's 12mm?
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    and Bang...
    inflated for 10 mints then blow out sitting still, me with the tyre lever I think judging by the fail point.

    I'm obviously just having a plain old mare...
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    I think i'm just having a plain old 'mare...
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • I have some of those they were proper bitches!!!!!!!
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    I asked google "how to fit a bike tyre"
    I returned me this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4



    I'll be trying that with the cheap junk tubes I'll be buying from Halfords tomorrow night. (Just don't have time to get down to one of the LBSes)
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • What rim tape have you got on your rims? is it velox- this is very thick.
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    Yeah it's Velox.
    Have noticed I tend to catch it with the bead.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I was about to post you a link to the Spa Cycles video but I see you've found it yourself :D

    They clearly have a reputation for being a b@stard to fit.
  • Twostage
    Twostage Posts: 987
    The video is good and since I watched it I can get marathons on with no levers without the aid of those straps he uses. Recently got marathon pluses and needed both feet and levers to get them on :evil: . They are difficult to get started as they are nearly flat and really resist going onto the rim. Keep pinging back off. Not looking forward to a road side inner-tube change.
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    Right... well it's on.
    Just giving it a bit to go bang.

    Still a tough fit even following that video, but I know for next time...

    I think given how tight it is, if I do puncture out on the road, I'll try running flat.
    Although would preffer it if it was a back that did it not front.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • woodywmb
    woodywmb Posts: 669
    The shop gave me a heavy duty reusable zip tie when I bought my Marathons. They said this would help with fitting.
    Only hope there's two of us out if I puncture on a ride.
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    Well I've riden it aroudn the drive a bit now and it seems to be fine, not heard a bang from the garage so :D

    Now if Wiggle had sent me the right bit today I would have the front brake on (they sent the caliper bracket for a 200mm rear disc not a 160mm front disc, 160mm discs are I would say excessive enough on the road)

    Just:
    Finalisation of cable set up
    Tuning brakes and gears
    Deciding what colour of bar tape to go for
    Mudguards and Rear Rack

    And then it's ready for winter commuting.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • always go for black bar tape doesn't show the filth lol
  • woodywmb
    woodywmb Posts: 669
    And go for Lizard Skins. See new Cycling Plus review. £28 but worth it. You'll be stroking the bars as you pedal.
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    See the pictures I linked to on the "What frame should I buy? ... This one?.... Ok I've bought it"
    Thread in Road Buying Advice.

    I think Black just looks wrong on this bike.
    I'm thinking Yellow or Honey leather. Although the LEather stuff shouldn't really be taken out in the winter...

    viewtopic.php?f=40042&t=12808702
    Do Nellyphants count?

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  • Unless you have a pro mechanic wrapping new fancy coloured tape on for you before every ride, go for black bar tape.

    It's the most practical, and discrete and it matches your saddle and seat post too. May I also refer you to http://www.velominati.com/blog/the-rules/ in particular Rule #8
  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    That saddle is temporary.
    I don't like it, or at least I didn't like it when I was 15 stone due to it being far too narrow, not tried a decent ride on it since I dropped to just over 11.

    I don't mind stuff showing wear on them, that's why I'm thinking leather tape and leather bars.
    Oh and obviously honey leather would go with the bronze frame.

    I'm not liking the black on the bronze, although I'm not liking the silver bottle cages either.
    Do Nellyphants count?

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