New bike being order tomorrow, question re tyres

sketchley

New bike being order tomorrow. Went with an LBS in the finish as they will swap the cassette over at no extra charge and build the bike with my wheels, set it all up plus throw in a 6 week and 6 months services. Plus I get piece of mind with them being just up the road.

Question, do I stick with the Conti 700x25c Gatoskins I have on my wheels at the moment or take them off and let them fit the new Continental Ultra Race folding 700x25c? Any opinions?

Hopefully will have the bike for the gathering on Saturday. So you can all laugh at me as I ride round RP getting used to drop for the first time!

New bike make me happy

Rich158

I've never tried the Ultra Race Folding, I'd go for Gatorskins, you can't really go wrong with them

clarkey cat

what bike?

sketchley

Genesis Equilibrium 20

jzed

Nice one Sketchley. What've you gone for? Whats the n+1 so your don't go through no-bike again

EDIT: Beaten to it

clarkey cat

Real men ride steel. Like it.

sketchley

n+1 is either the warranty return or another frame and build the old one. I don't like having a box of bits!

Ref Warranty Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

jzed

Sketchley wrote:

n+1 is either the warranty return or another frame and build the old one. I don't like having a box of bits!

Ref Warranty Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

Thats poor as surely they have a copy of the original receipt.

sketchley

JZed wrote:

Sketchley wrote:

n+1 is either the warranty return or another frame and build the old one. I don't like having a box of bits!

Ref Warranty Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

Thats poor as surely they have a copy of the original receipt.

No records are not kept that far back they looked it up on computer and no record. I do have copy of C2W invoice from them to my company says my name on it too. It's also registered with Specialized hopefully they'll do something.

To be honest though not that bothered now that new bike is on it way.

UndercoverElephant

Sketchley wrote:

Genesis Equilibrium 20

Them sure are purty bikes. I've never tried either tyre, but it comes down to the usual tough vs. light conundrum, in this case I'd stick with tough, as there's not really that much difference in weight.

Enjoy the Equilibrium.

dhope

Sketchley wrote:

Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/business-advice/t ... explained/

if the customer has lost their receipt but is able to offer other evidence, for example, a bank or credit card statement, packaging etc, then you must accept this if it demonstrates the goods were purchased from you.

sketchley

dhope wrote:

Sketchley wrote:

Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/business-advice/t ... explained/

if the customer has lost their receipt but is able to offer other evidence, for example, a bank or credit card statement, packaging etc, then you must accept this if it demonstrates the goods were purchased from you.

Trouble is SOGA doesn't apply this is a warranty claim.

clarkey cat

Bingo.

dhope

Sketchley wrote:

dhope wrote:

Sketchley wrote:

Evans has said a firm no as I don't have original reciept. Have e-mailed specialized to see what they say.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/business-advice/t ... explained/

if the customer has lost their receipt but is able to offer other evidence, for example, a bank or credit card statement, packaging etc, then you must accept this if it demonstrates the goods were purchased from you.

Trouble is SOGA doesn't apply this is a warranty claim.

Surely it does, warranties and faulty goods are a huge part of SOGA?

Jay dubbleU

clarkey cat wrote:

Real men ride steel. Like it.

+1 - good choice

SimonAH

Nice bike mate, ride to work and work to ride! Enjoy

ThatBikeGuy

I use a Vitorria Rubino Pro on the front and Gatorskin on the rear (bike came like that). Both tyres are starting to get a little shredded with holes/scratches here and there but never had a puncture in around 1500 miles. Personally i'd go for the conti gatorskins simply because i trust them and the anti-puncture layering system is very reassuring.

cloggsy

23's?

Clever Pun

cloggsy wrote:

23's?

That's what I was thinking

sketchley

Button Pushed. Should pick it up on Saturday. I'm sticking with the Gatorskins 25s for the moment. Not sure about 23's if anything I might up the rear back to 28 with me being the size I am.

cloggsy

Sketchley wrote:

Not sure about 23's if anything I might up the rear back to 28 with me being the size I am.

How 'big' are you?

I'm (currently) 16.5 stone and I ride on 23's!

sketchley

Bit bigger. just shy of 18.

Problem with smaller tyres is you need much higher pressure to stop the wall collapsing under your weight. Higher pressure results in more vibrations which affects ride quality and can reduce traction. You may also find that given your weight you would be quicker on a bigger tyre.

cloggsy

Sketchley wrote:

Bit bigger. just shy of 18.

Problem with smaller tyres is you need much higher pressure to stop the wall collapsing under your weight. Higher pressure results in more vibrations which affects ride quality and can reduce traction. You may also find that given your weight you would be quicker on a bigger tyre.

I run my 23's at 110psi, I don't have any issues with collapsing side walls etc...

I believe I'm quick enough too; I average 18 to 20mph on must rides...

clarkey cat

funnily enough Sketchley I tried running at 120psi recently and found the road vibration really bad and ended up going slower. I dropped back down to 110psi and have a 25c on the front (23c on the back) at the moment and feel like I'm going quicker. I'm 15 stone.

sketchley

Explained better here

http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/TireDrop.pdf

For me approx rear wheel load is 65kgs (I'm yet to test it) so for a 25mm tyre I would need about 130psi and for 28mm about 108psi. Now currently I run my 25mm at around 115psi which is little low and therefore increasing rolling resistance a little from the ideal. I either need to increase pressure in my rear to tyre to the seeming high and probably quite harsh 130psi or I fit a 28 and run it at 108psi which should be quicker than the 25mm at 115psi as less rolling resistance.

UndercoverElephant

Ahem. Well? :roll:

sketchley

Delivered to shop on Friday, didn't have time to build it Friday. Mechanic doesn't work Saturday. Driven to work today (that's was scary with all them cyclists around!) waiting for call to pick up the bike. Then I need to go home and fit extra bits then off for test ride ready for first commute tomorrow.

UndercoverElephant

Pah! I hate to wait. Even if it isn't actually my bike.

sketchley

It's ready. Picking it up at 4pm!

notsoblue

Sketchley wrote:

It's ready. Picking it up at 4pm!

I shouldn't be this excited about someone else picking up a bike.

*giddy*

DonDaddyD

Sketchley wrote:

Bit bigger. just shy of 18.

Problem with smaller tyres is you need much higher pressure to stop the wall collapsing under your weight. Higher pressure results in more vibrations which affects ride quality and can reduce traction. You may also find that given your weight you would be quicker on a bigger tyre.

Meh.

I'm 16stone and religiouly run my 23s at 121psi (OCD).

I have no problem with ride comfort, reduced traction or speed.