Something aint right! RS80 wheel - Photos

R8JimBob88
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Hello people,
Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this are... I purchased a New Ribble Sportive back in March. I noticed shortly after that the rear wheel (RS80) didnt sit quite central to the frame. It is still completely true and up until now has posed no issues. I just thought it was the way the bike/frame were made.
I have only covered about 400 miles on it so far and a few days ago was the first time I have ridden it in anger down a very fast hill with long sweeping corners. The rear wheel would occasionally rub on something enough to induce a brown pants moment. I assume that the tyre must be catching the frame somewhere.
I've since swapped the wheel for another which seesm to sit perfectly central and where it should be. Its evident that that RS80 is somewhat scewed.
So has anyone any ideas why this may be? I'll give Ribble a call in the morning.
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So has anyone any ideas why this may be? I'll give Ribble a call in the morning.
Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this are... I purchased a New Ribble Sportive back in March. I noticed shortly after that the rear wheel (RS80) didnt sit quite central to the frame. It is still completely true and up until now has posed no issues. I just thought it was the way the bike/frame were made.
I have only covered about 400 miles on it so far and a few days ago was the first time I have ridden it in anger down a very fast hill with long sweeping corners. The rear wheel would occasionally rub on something enough to induce a brown pants moment. I assume that the tyre must be catching the frame somewhere.
I've since swapped the wheel for another which seesm to sit perfectly central and where it should be. Its evident that that RS80 is somewhat scewed.
So has anyone any ideas why this may be? I'll give Ribble a call in the morning.
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So has anyone any ideas why this may be? I'll give Ribble a call in the morning.
If you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got....
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looks that the wheel is probably not dished correctly.0
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Is that something that can be fixed or a new wheel jobbie?If you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got....0
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Can be fixed easily with the use of a spoke key!
If you don't know what you're doing, leave it to the professionals.0 -
No idea what I'm doing....
Problem with Ribble is they are 30 miles away so it's a long trip to take it to them.
Other option is the LBS but why should I pay for itIf you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got....0 -
hmmm...
wheels, due to their nature should need a quick true or re-tension after a months or so riding. Have a chat to ribble and see what they say.0 -
Yes, definitely not dished correctly, quite unusual for a higher end factory wheel like the RS80. I have a pair of them, too, great wheels. It's possible that Ribble would replace that, they might not be keen on re-dishing a factory wheel and might prefer to send it back to Shimano.0
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If the wheel is still true it must have been wrong from day one. Ribble should replace it without any quibble since it is really Shimano's problem. Shoyld have been picked up in pre-delivery checks0
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Mine are the same, obviously more noticeable on a narrow race frame. Spoken to LBS as wheel still runs true and it will be adjusted - by moving rim 1 mm to right on next service.
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Just before you call anyone- just check that your conical springs on your QR are arranged so that the narrow part of the spring is on the inside.
Cant tell you how many times I've seen this at bike shops- presents like a badly dished wheel.
In fairness to ribble shimano wheels are so reliably built I no of noone who would actually have checked the dish before sending them out. The way they are built should preclude mistakes like this- much more likely to be a hub issue.0 -
Ive checked the springs and the skewer and both are good. Must be the internals of the hub or something.
I'll ring Ribble this morning. When I bought the bike their customer service was top notch, I just hope it is ts time too!If you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got....0 -
anto164 wrote:hmmm...
wheels, due to their nature should need a quick true or re-tension after a months or so riding.
No, they shouldn't.More problems but still living....0 -
anto164 wrote:hmmm...
wheels, due to their nature should need a quick true or re-tension after a months or so riding. Have a chat to ribble and see what they say.
If they've not been assembled and quality tested correctly.
Wheels should just work, people saying they need to "settle in" are wrong. That means the spoke twist was not removed and when the twist unwinds in use the wheel loses trueness.
Looking at the photo however it is either a dud frame or the wheel is way out of dish (rim not equidistant along the axle).
First, check the wheel is in the frame right. Sometimes you can clamp the wheel with the one side lower.
The try someone else's wheel in the frame and see if that looks okay, if not then the frame is duff.0 -
That's very odd for factory wheels0
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it's probably the dishing but it could also be a problem the spacing of the axle internals.
do you have a photo of the driveside axle, preferably with the cassette fitted?Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer0 -
You said that you've tried a different wheel and it was fine so this is probably a waste of time but.....i came off a my bike a while back and everthing looked okay until i checked the wheels, the rear wheel looked the same as in your picture and it was down to the stays being very slightly bent.0
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So I rang Ribble today and explained the issue. No questions or fuss, it's getting collected on Wednesday to be repaired or replaced.
Jobs a good 'unIf you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got....0 -
amaferanga wrote:anto164 wrote:hmmm...
wheels, due to their nature should need a quick true or re-tension after a months or so riding.
No, they shouldn't.
i dont think there is a yes/no answer here. i know you will say if theyre built correctly with magic bla bla. strip a used wheel and you will see the spoke elbow beds itself a nice little groove into the hub flange, which is good for a smooth fitting radius. its bound to cause some settling down i think. should still stay true and rideable but loose a little tension maybe.0 -
rake wrote:amaferanga wrote:anto164 wrote:hmmm...
wheels, due to their nature should need a quick true or re-tension after a months or so riding.
No, they shouldn't.
strip a used wheel and you will see the spoke elbow beds itself a nice little groove into the hub flange, which is good for a smooth fitting radius. its bound to cause some settling down i think. should still stay true and rideable but loose a little tension maybe.
Strip an only-just-built wheel and you will see exactly the same. Hub flanges are deformed by spoke tension alone, which is at its maximum in a rested wheel.
"Settling in" refers to one thing only: latent spoke twist, relieving in use. Ideally, the builder will have dealt with that already, and there'll be no return: but human error is fair enough, and sometimes spokes are missed which can be fixed later without issue.
The problem is a the prevailing misunderstanding, which claims that these adjustments are normal and expected. That claim comes only from people who never understood the cause (in my experience), and whose "fix" is only a temporary improvement. The result is a wheel that is constantly untrue, then fixed, repeatedly, until the owner gets bored of going back to the shop, and buys some factory wheels instead. In this scenario, neither buyer nor wheelbuilder learns anything, because they both attribute their problems to something else.0