My Santa Cruz Nomad Carbon build *UPDATE JUNE *Page 10

lawman

jay12 wrote:

ohhh those easton havens 8) 8) 8)

and that fox fork 8) i might be getting one or the 180mm next year for my build if i can get trade price when i'm working at my lbs, but thats not certain

of topic, but don't expect mega savings on fox's unless you're working for a main fox dealer, and what ever idea of price you have for a build, add at least a quarter as much again for realistic price

jay12

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

ohhh those easton havens 8) 8) 8)

and that fox fork 8) i might be getting one or the 180mm next year for my build if i can get trade price when i'm working at my lbs, but thats not certain

of topic, but don't expect mega savings on fox's unless you're working for a main fox dealer, and what ever idea of price you have for a build, add at least a quarter as much again for realistic price

i was looking at the pricing for them at the shop when i was on work experiance and it's actually quite good. it all depends how much money i'll have


and yes you are right! you always end up spending more than you intended.

lawman

jay12 wrote:

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

ohhh those easton havens 8) 8) 8)

and that fox fork 8) i might be getting one or the 180mm next year for my build if i can get trade price when i'm working at my lbs, but thats not certain

of topic, but don't expect mega savings on fox's unless you're working for a main fox dealer, and what ever idea of price you have for a build, add at least a quarter as much again for realistic price

i was looking at the pricing for them at the shop when i was on work experiance and it's actually quite good. it all depends how much money i'll have


and yes you are right! you always end up spending more than you intended.

yeah thats what i thought when i saw them, but it turned out they were about 10-15% more than marked for some reason :? gotta admit they are mega overpriced even at trade.

yep, the mojo was originally budgeted for around the 3K mark, worked out alot more than that in the end

jay12

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

ohhh those easton havens 8) 8) 8)

and that fox fork 8) i might be getting one or the 180mm next year for my build if i can get trade price when i'm working at my lbs, but thats not certain

of topic, but don't expect mega savings on fox's unless you're working for a main fox dealer, and what ever idea of price you have for a build, add at least a quarter as much again for realistic price

i was looking at the pricing for them at the shop when i was on work experiance and it's actually quite good. it all depends how much money i'll have


and yes you are right! you always end up spending more than you intended.

yeah thats what i thought when i saw them, but it turned out they were about 10-15% more than marked for some reason :? gotta admit they are mega overpriced even at trade.

yep, the mojo was originally budgeted for around the 3K mark, worked out alot more than that in the end

i'm probably gonna go for some used 36 vans, lyrik dh or totems. even if theyr used they'll still be good, be a lot cheaper and i can get a full fork service for £75

Xgreygoose

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

lawman wrote:

jay12 wrote:

ohhh those easton havens 8) 8) 8)
and that fox fork 8) i might be getting one or the 180mm next year for my build if i can get trade price when i'm working at my lbs, but thats not certain

of topic, but don't expect mega savings on fox's unless you're working for a main fox dealer, and what ever idea of price you have for a build, add at least a quarter as much again for realistic price

i was looking at the pricing for them at the shop when i was on work experiance and it's actually quite good. it all depends how much money i'll have
and yes you are right! you always end up spending more than you intended.

yeah thats what i thought when i saw them, but it turned out they were about 10-15% more than marked for some reason :? gotta admit they are mega overpriced even at trade.
yep, the mojo was originally budgeted for around the 3K mark, worked out alot more than that in the end

My SC Nomad build is alot more than my Jekyll build. I guess it cost more if you build up from a frame than a complete bike. Saying that I do get a good discount from my LBS. Also Fox Shock distributor in HK I get 25% off retail price. For example I buy the 2012 32 Talas for around 435pounds (exchange rate 12.5) which I think is pretty good. Another reason I can see my future upgrade to a 2012 180 Talas.......so glad now that I didn't get the Jekyll

Dick Scruttock

Xgreygoose wrote:

Rick Draper wrote:

Xgreygoose wrote:

Rick Draper wrote:

Very nice, are you not tempted to put a 160mm 36 on the front of it though rather than a 150mm fork?
Just seen the bit in the first post about why you have gone for the 150mm fork.

Cheers, how's your SC Blur LTc or you riding your Giant more now?

Its just taken me 2 months to have the Blurs formulas fixed so at long last i can ride her. It took 2 new master cylinders to sort it out. If your master cylinders have round caps send them straight off.

What to you mean when you say "round caps"? Any pic'e you can show me? :?:

Just whipped one of my levers off for you:

Here is what i was told:

On inspecting them I found fluid leaking from the MC caps, something we have seen before with older The ONE’s and R1’s and due to us currently being out of stock of the required parts we replaced the complete MC body both front and rear (I believe the rear had already been replaced?)

Xgreygoose

Rick Draper wrote:

Xgreygoose wrote:

Rick Draper wrote:

Xgreygoose wrote:

Rick Draper wrote:

Very nice, are you not tempted to put a 160mm 36 on the front of it though rather than a 150mm fork?
Just seen the bit in the first post about why you have gone for the 150mm fork.

Cheers, how's your SC Blur LTc or you riding your Giant more now?

Its just taken me 2 months to have the Blurs formulas fixed so at long last i can ride her. It took 2 new master cylinders to sort it out. If your master cylinders have round caps send them straight off.

What to you mean when you say "round caps"? Any pic'e you can show me? :?:

Just whipped one of my levers off for you:

Here is what i was told:

On inspecting them I found fluid leaking from the MC caps, something we have seen before with older The ONE’s and R1’s and due to us currently being out of stock of the required parts we replaced the complete MC body both front and rear (I believe the rear had already been replaced?)

Cheers for the pic. I see now what you mean. I common problem especially the first edition R1's.
I did have a problem with my first edition R1's. They changed the round cap and no problem since 09. I do however do a monthly check on all my Formula's. As you know brake oil and carbon finish is a BIG no no. Also any new set of Formula's I put a small bit of white paper on the cap to see if there is any oil leak during the first couple of months. Not so much worried about the oil leak but its the carbon finish

leaflite

This is going to be lovely when built! Cant wait to see it:D



Rather than the rp23, how about a 2012 rockshox monarch rt3 with the new carbon air can? Apparently they blow through their travel less than the foxes.

lawman

leaflite wrote:

This is going to be lovely when built! Cant wait to see it:D



Rather than the rp23, how about a 2012 rockshox monarch rt3 with the new carbon air can? Apparently they blow through their travel less than the foxes.

depends on the tune, the boost valve on the rp23 pretty much stops mid-stroke wallow on 90% of bikes, and the vpp design and other twin link bikes are normally pretty good overall

ichabod crane

lawman wrote:

leaflite wrote:

This is going to be lovely when built! Cant wait to see it:D



Rather than the rp23, how about a 2012 rockshox monarch rt3 with the new carbon air can? Apparently they blow through their travel less than the foxes.

depends on the tune, the boost valve on the rp23 pretty much stops mid-stroke wallow on 90% of bikes, and the vpp design and other twin link bikes are normally pretty good overall

Well they need to redo it again the rp23 on my T2 is still pretty wallowy and blows through the travel on big hits.

And we need more nomad pics!

Xgreygoose

ichabod crane wrote:

lawman wrote:

leaflite wrote:

This is going to be lovely when built! Cant wait to see it:D
Rather than the rp23, how about a 2012 rockshox monarch rt3 with the new carbon air can? Apparently they blow through their travel less than the foxes.

depends on the tune, the boost valve on the rp23 pretty much stops mid-stroke wallow on 90% of bikes, and the vpp design and other twin link bikes are normally pretty good overall

Well they need to redo it again the rp23 on my T2 is still pretty wallowy and blows through the travel on big hits.
And we need more nomad pics!

I'm not a big of Rock Shox Monarch. I had a Rock Shox Monarch 4.2 on my 2010 Scalpel Team and I didn't like the feel of it. Even my light DT Carbon XR felt better and that's not a great rear shock.( I only like it because it was very light and had a lockout feature) . I've never really had any complains about my old RP23. This is why I went for the 2012 RP23, I've heard nothing but great reports/feedback from it. I did think about going one up and getting DHX Air 5.0 but the hassle of fine tuning this shock didn't appeal to me.

ichabod. Pic's when come on Monday when my new headset arrives. 8)

Xgreygoose

My flat pedals arrived this afternoon. Point 1 Racing Podium pedals. Liking the four sealed cartridge bearings on each pedal with O-ring seals. And a pretty big platform.

With steel pins 380g

With alloy pins 357g


Also arrived is my MRP XCG Double Bash Guards. 89g


My custom Enve decal/stickers is here too. Now I'm just waiting on my new headset and I'm done

Anonymous

Cat With No Tail wrote:

*sniffs*

What's that smell?

Smells like .......is it?. ............I think it could be. ............yes, I think it may just be .....................bike of the year!!!!

Ditch that PoS hope skewer first though. I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find something better.

Me exact thoughts.

Well, sort of. What are you doing putting such cheap, tatty components on such a nice frame?

Seriously though, that is just splentacular. Awesome. (apart from the Hope skewer)

Xgreygoose

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Cat With No Tail wrote:

*sniffs*
What's that smell?
Smells like .......is it?. ............I think it could be. ............yes, I think it may just be .....................bike of the year!!!!
Ditch that PoS hope skewer first though. I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find something better.

Me exact thoughts.
Well, sort of. What are you doing putting such cheap, tatty components on such a nice frame?
Seriously though, that is just splentacular. Awesome. (apart from the Hope skewer)

It's gone, no more Hope skewer. It will be DT Swiss or XTR that will be going on or maybe something else.

Anonymous

XTR!

Thewaylander

Needs more BURL!!!! rawr

Xgreygoose

Thewaylander wrote:

Needs more BURL!!!! rawr

What does BURL mean? :?: :oops:

TerryBlato

Jesus Christ that is a disgustingly nice bit of kit!

Thewaylander

Burly :P

ichabod crane

Thewaylander wrote:

Needs more BURL!!!! rawr

I agree, Cane Creek Double Barrel muchness required!!! :twisted:

Xgreygoose

ichabod crane wrote:

Thewaylander wrote:

Needs more BURL!!!! rawr

I agree, Cane Creek Double Barrel muchness required!!! :twisted:

A lovely bit of kit 8) but would also require a larger fork on the Nomad and leaning towards more "downhill" which I not ready for (yet)

Xgreygoose

OK, after some dumb ass delay finally my CK headset has arrived. And the correct one this time (Inset Model5 1.5 taper headset).

Went with the "Pewter" colour this time as the gold was too orange looking. Also wanted to be original and didn't go with the black one.



My XTR skewer arrived too but I think I'm going to go with the DT Swiss RWS MTB Titanium one and to add abit of colour, I will use the knob from the Hope skewer.
Surprisingly only 1gram lighter than the Hope gold skewer but XTR is much prettier to look at.


This one is the one that I will be using DT Swiss RWS MTB Titanium.
The ratchet system seems pretty tight and the matt black lever matches the frame well.


I managed to find 75mm Enve stem 8) so I think I'm going to go with this one. Still have the Point 1 Racing "Split Second 70" stem but I don't know if I will keep it.
Dam good weight for a super stiff carbon stem.



Here is my front wheelset. I changed the decal/sticker from white/silver to Black/gold and other one is black/very light pink white to match the font colour of "Santa Cruz" on the frame. (Photo shot could have been better)


This should be the last of the photo's on, the bike parts. Nomad will be complete tomorrow "yippee!!!!" 8)

PIKEO

looking forward to seeing the finished machine

Tinman_66

So much awesomeness in one bike. My all time favourite bike with an absolutely epic build.

Blows the 'Dale off the trail

Xgreygoose

Introducing my Santa Cruz Nomad Carbon Enve

I'm so happy, finally my AM build is finished.

Frame is a medium with carbon black and gold colour.





Found some lovely Limited Edition Gold ODI Ruffian grips 8)




I put some "Sports Cover Bike Shield Frame Protector" on the down tube. IMO so much better the 3M helicopter tape.

Continental X-Kings 2.2

Continental X-Kings 2.4



Pleasantly surprised with the weight 11.49kg which is around 25.3lbs
An extra 130grams when I put on the flat Point 1 Racing pedals, another 100+grams if i use the Mountain Kings 2.4
All in all it will stay under 26lbs (11.8kg) which is pretty good for a AM bike 8)





Now its time to really test this bad boy out this weekend on the trails. Have only tried it on some wee single track path way down from my house. Setting the sag on the shocks. Liking the new feature of the "Pro Pedal" on RP23. Also very strange seeing two front forks

Please feel free to comment and ask questions

benpinnick

I don't think I can stand up without embarrassing myself. Good work Big John.

j_l

yep, I got wood :oops:


nice

pioneer68

Amazing attention to detail, and looks great, almost to good to ride (almost but not quite). Well light for an AM build, lighter than most 120 bikes on the market. Would take carbon wheels, to get my Remedy, anywhere near yours, I think. Only thing I'm not a fan of is the muzzle on your Gobi saddle, but that's just nit picking.
Look forward to seeing your next project Big John.

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