Maxxis high roller or minion

Shocker33

Hi,

It's time to purchase some new boots for my beautiful beast. Looking at tyres and i think i've decided on purchasing one of these two tyres. Maxxis High Roller DH or Maxxis Minion DH, does anyone have any opinions on either tyre? Which ever one i purchase will be dual ply and will be 26 x 2.5 at 40a.

Maxxis High Roller DH - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4611

Maxxis Minion DH - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4620

Or if anyone would like to recommend me a good DH tyre, please feel free.

Cheers for any advice in advance.
Rob

Dirtydog11

Shocker33 wrote:

Hi,

It's time to purchase some new boots for my beautiful beast. Looking at tyres and i think i've decided on purchasing one of these two tyres. Maxxis High Roller DH or Maxxis Minion DH, does anyone have any opinions on either tyre? Which ever one i purchase will be dual ply and will be 26 x 2.5 at 40a.

Maxxis High Roller DH - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4611

Maxxis Minion DH - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4620

Or if anyone would like to recommend me a good DH tyre, please feel free.

Cheers for any advice in advance.
Rob

I hope your not planning on riding up any hills.

They're both highly rated but are you aware that dual ply, especially the 42a variety, are only suitable downhill use only and would be nigh on useless for normal trail use.

I've used both tyres but the 2.35 single ply variety

Minions DHF- slightly faster rolling than Highrollers and more predictable when leaned over. Will clog up quicker than Rollers although neither are ideal in mud\clag.

Highrollers - slower than Minions with better brake bite but less predictable when leaned over. This is due to the large gap between centre and side knobs. As a result they clear mud faster. Note Maxxis have a new version of the Highroller in the pipeline.

At the end of the day it would come down to condtions and personal preference.

fredy

try www.nextdaytyres.com They will probably be cheaper than crc

chalky1

Well i will totally contradict dirtydog and it just goes to show that NO two riders are the same !
At the end of the day if your slow up hills any way it doesent matter that much what tyres you put because you are always gonna be slow, if you are fast down the other side then something that suits your style is required, if you brake a lot or if you get the bike right over then all of the above requires fettling.

The 40a Super Reazy are like chewing gum though and drag like Eddy Izzard !
The 42a Super Tacky are still soft ! a lot of riders i know would use a 42a up front for grip and a 60a rear so they dont get destroyed while braking

"I FIND" That High Rollers roll faster than Minions !
High Rollers brake totally different to minions in that the HR's aid you to drift,
Minions bite like a MoFo and scrub speed off in an instant so much so that too much hard braking sat you up in the swoopy stuff when you should be over on the lugs on the side. or get you outa shape when you only intended to slow down for a tricky bit but you get outa line or go too slow "kinda hard to explain"
they dont offer as much grip as the Minions either uphill, downhill, traversing, on rocks, roots or any other kind of surface ! i.e. Mountain Biking !

The Minions are like the OLD Michelin Comp 16 Front & Comp 24 Rear of Yesteryear !
About 8-10 Years ago !
They are shaped like them in that the front should be forward facing lugs to aid rolling and most importantly steering input.
The rear to have blocks across the tread pattern to afford climbing and of course braking !

I know i know RAD DH'ers dont brake !
:roll:

i always ride dual ply because if i dont i pinch flat, if i,m riding the peaks ill ride 42a Fr & re on the rocks if im at a trail centre ill prob ride 60a HR rear & 60a Minion Front.

For the Alps both tyres in both tyres for different days and riding.

Shocker_33

To be honest, i have no idea about tyres.......I only decided on those two tyres because they are roughly what i want and are a popular choice according to crc.


At the minute i have some 26x2.5 Tioga White Tigers on. I like the 2.5's because they roll over things like a tank instead of getting rooted in to things like smaller tyres. So i'm looking for this and great all rounder for grip.

So a recommendation would be good otherwise i think i will go for the Minion.

Anonymous

chalky1, if you're slow up hills anyway and put really heavy DH tyres on, you're going to be worse off than a super fit rider with heavy tyres, since well... to put it bluntly, you don't have the fitness to cope!

chalky1

Mr Mgee !

I dont understand a word of what you have just put up ?

Are you refering that by changing a pair of tyres it makes you a super fit rider ?

OR
If you put them on it makes you worse than a super fit rider ?

OR
Are you talking B@llax again ?

To put it Bluntly ? dont write it just put it bluntly ! Are you refering to my own level of fitness ?

Anonymous

chalky1,What?
No, I'm saying that if you're slow up a hill, then putting heavy tyres is going to be a BIG pain in the arris.
If you're quick up the hills, then it's not such a big deal.

Thewaylander

I ride 2.35 high roller single ply rear, a and 2.5duel ply minion front for trails and everything. Really good set up front has progressive grip and can be run very low pressure. The high roller has good edge grip which lets you slide just a bit then digs in. highly recommend the set up if you want to trail ride and dh with out faffing with tyres

chalky1

Some people are quick up hills and slow down em
some are slow up and quick down
some are quick up and quick down,

At the end of the day its down to a lot more than a pair of tyres

Shocker_33

Thewaylander wrote:

I ride 2.35 high roller single ply rear, a and 2.5duel ply minion front for trails and everything. Really good set up front has progressive grip and can be run very low pressure. The high roller has good edge grip which lets you slide just a bit then digs in. highly recommend the set up if you want to trail ride and dh with out faffing with tyres

I like the idea of a slightly thinner rear tyre to reduce rolling resistance. With a high roller on the rear, do you not find the wheel slipping when climbing any hill with a loose surface?

Anonymous

chalky1 wrote:

Some people are quick up hills and slow down em
some are slow up and quick down
some are quick up and quick down,

At the end of the day its down to a lot more than a pair of tyres

:roll: I know that, but trust me when I say that sticking a DH tyre on your bike will not do you any favours when climbing.

Shocker_33

chalky1 wrote:

Some people are quick up hills and slow down em
some are slow up and quick down
some are quick up and quick down,

At the end of the day its down to a lot more than a pair of tyres

I think he means that if people are possibly struggling to keep up with the pace and/or find it takes a lot out of them in terms of energy. Having a heavy tyre and/or one with high rolling resistance, won't help matters. As it will require more energy to travel at the same velocity and will therefore either slow the person down even more and/or take more energy out of them and make them feel more fatigued. And this is regardless of the persons fitness.

Dirtydog11

Shocker_33 wrote:

To be honest, i have no idea about tyres.......I only decided on those two tyres because they are roughly what i want and are a popular choice according to crc.


At the minute i have some 26x2.5 Tioga White Tigers on. I like the 2.5's because they roll over things like a tank instead of getting rooted in to things like smaller tyres. So i'm looking for this and great all rounder for grip.

So a recommendation would be good otherwise i think i will go for the Minion.

If your are going to be riding up hills as well as down and are worried about pinch flats then you should also consider the 2.5 Minion DHF Exo.

They come as a single ply, 60a (Maxxpro) compound but importantly have reinforced sidewalls and only weigh 860g ish (dual ply are around 1300g).

review here

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/maxxis-min ... -2010.html

Cheapest place for them is Winstanleys

I ordered a pair last week but have not had a chance to try them.

Thewaylander

Shocker_33 wrote:

Thewaylander wrote:

I ride 2.35 high roller single ply rear, a and 2.5duel ply minion front for trails and everything. Really good set up front has progressive grip and can be run very low pressure. The high roller has good edge grip which lets you slide just a bit then digs in. highly recommend the set up if you want to trail ride and dh with out faffing with tyres

I like the idea of a slightly thinner rear tyre to reduce rolling resistance. With a high roller on the rear, do you not find the wheel slipping when climbing any hill with a loose surface?

Yup no issues with climbing grip I find the bar like of the high roller hooksup well on even the most technical climb. And to be honest I the dh tyre up front isn't that much work to roll.

It's a reliable all round set up, as I find standard 2.35maxxis up front to narrow.

Shocker_33

Thewaylander Cheers i think i am going try your setup!


.....Unless someone ends up giving a better setup.



Cheers to everyone that has posted on topic for your input.