New Canyon CF frame - are these marks normal?

celery101
celery101 Posts: 37
edited May 2011 in Workshop
Have finally got everything together (ok, bottom bracket doesn't arrive until next week) for my first ever build - a Canyon CF with Record/Chorus.

The frameset arrived - and Canyon were really helpful re questions and good with communications re the delivery date. But, something is playing on my mind.

There are two marks on the downtube and I really need some feedback to tell whether they are normal. Have put two pics in. As you can see, the marks are not huge, but are clearly visible.

Canyon said this is normal as there is basically just a clear coat over the bare carbon. I can understand that for the vertical/horizontal marks, but would that also be right for these marks, which are thumb-print shaped?

I'm not moaning about Canyon, they have been helpful and responsive and I don't think I could have got such a good frame anywhere else for the ££, but I just want some feedback/opinion before I build this bad boy up.

Its my first carbon bike - am i being a bit precious?

(To clarify - this is not one of the frames sold with optical defects).



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Comments

  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    My Ribble is unidirectional carbon. TBH, the black parts are absolutely bonkers covered in marks and the like. Really they should paint the black but in a way, I like it. But I do keep thinking its got scratched and then realising that the mark is under the lacquer.

    Your frame looks a lot tidier but if it really is just clear coat, I'd have thought there would be more than just those two patches.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • celery101
    celery101 Posts: 37
    cool - cheers mate - interesting - i just wanted some feedback before i got building so good to know other carbon frames have similar marks.
  • wicked
    wicked Posts: 844
    celery101 wrote:
    Have finally got everything together (ok, bottom bracket doesn't arrive until next week) for my first ever build - a Canyon CF with Record/Chorus.

    The frameset arrived - and Canyon were really helpful re questions and good with communications re the delivery date. But, something is playing on my mind.

    There are two marks on the downtube and I really need some feedback to tell whether they are normal. Have put two pics in. As you can see, the marks are not huge, but are clearly visible.

    Canyon said this is normal as there is basically just a clear coat over the bare carbon. I can understand that for the vertical/horizontal marks, but would that also be right for these marks, which are thumb-print shaped?

    I'm not moaning about Canyon, they have been helpful and responsive and I don't think I could have got such a good frame anywhere else for the ££, but I just want some feedback/opinion before I build this bad boy up.

    Its my first carbon bike - am i being a bit precious?

    (To clarify - this is not one of the frames sold with optical defects).



    5739955457_032f5a03fe.jpg



    [img]]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/5739947207_5a81440891.jpg[/img][/img]

    No you are not being precious and the fact it's good value is nothing to do with it, the frame has got to be right. If it's bothering you now that feeling will only get worse, get in contact with canyon and tell them your concerns.
    If you are anything like me you just want to build it up and ride it but a little time sorting it now will pay off in the long run.
    It’s the most beautiful sport in the world but it’s governed by ***ts who have turned it into a crock of ****.
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    It's 100% normal. I've got the same frame and those sorts of markings occur all over the frame. It's just what UD CF looks like.

    It's a bit of an industrial look but i don't mind it really.
  • celery101
    celery101 Posts: 37
    ekimike - that's 100% just what i wanted to hear. i've seen a white cf close up, but not a black one and i just wanted to be sure it was ok/normal. i expected the linear marks, but couldn't figure out why there would be marks these shape, but you've totally put my mind at rest.

    and, wicked, you are spot-on, i do just want to get it built. it's killing me having everything except the BB - which i ordered online and delivery was delayed (will arrive next week - probably with the rain/bad weather!).

    cheers muchly for the advice.
  • fludey
    fludey Posts: 384
    I have a similar patch on my Felt AR4 as well, just looks like a mark in the clear coat and its been there for a year and not changed in anyway....so think you should be fine :D
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  • bruce225
    bruce225 Posts: 129
    Wow!! not happy with that feel sorry for us Boardman Carbon owners... :lol:
  • freddiegrubb
    freddiegrubb Posts: 448
    bruce225, elaborate please.
  • hounslow
    hounslow Posts: 153
    2011 Boardman team carbons have lots of cosmetic 'blemishes', due to the matt finish on the carbon.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    maybe this is more common with matt finish frames who knows? wouldn't exist on cf frames with good laquer.
  • bruce225
    bruce225 Posts: 129
    bruce225, elaborate please.

    Old post when i was a bit worried about mine...

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12752176&highlight=
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    maybe this is more common with matt finish frames who knows? wouldn't exist on cf frames with good laquer.

    Matt lacquer will tend to hide flaws more than gloss. However, any clear coat, gloss or matt, by definition, is going to show up what's underneath to some degree. Otherwise it wouldn't be clear......!
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